Ships & Modules

**** u ccp roll it back along with the interdictor changes now or im unsubbing i haved enoughf of your bullshit stealth nerfs not be ing put in patch notes to say "sorry" is the shittest nsult u can say to us **** YOU CCP

If you will do so, please send me login details to accounts you wan't use anymore
or just send all ISK and assets to me.

TIA.

While I agree with your sentiments, I will simply drop down to 1 account....
As I sympathize with you, may I have your stuff? If you return later, I'll give (most of) it back.

I don't think anyone but CCP is ever going to understand why this is being changed. No one was complaining about it. It has been this way for YEARS. Unless CCP has some new modules in the works this is going to be another huge downside to active shield tanking.

Just another boondoggle to make it look like they doing new and innovative things when in reality they are just pissing their customers off, and losing subs. I've already dropped from four to two accounts, and one of those is going to be lapsing here soon.

Well, the only reason I can imagine ever training these skills again, is when shield tanking gets too cap intensive to run more than two active hardeners.

Thanks, CCP for saving me months of training time.

Don't forget to contract some of the precious stuffz to me

Like the change, as said by Greyscale "fitting is about making decision".
Hope no-one comes up with "we want the Mega Module being public available".

Just a small add:
Skilling Armor Compensation Skills @ V is still very usefull cause of the EANM.
But the specific Shield Compensation Skills need a bit more love, cause the Amplifiers are very very rarely used. Would be great to give them a small buff that it realy forces ppl to skill also these 4 skills and see these skills also als "basic requirements for tanking"

I can see (without fully agreeing) why you want to make the decision between active and passive resists more challenging, rather than having active hardeners come with a "backup plan" for when they are not active. However, I do wish you guys would seriously, honestly reconsider the impact this will have on the four Shield Compensation skills. I'm sure you see the stats regarding how and when people use passive shield resist mods, and know as well as anyone that they just don't get used.

Leaving these skills as-is is just contributing to additional skill bloat that will have to be addressed down the road - it would be better (especially for the folks that are upset) to address that problem now, rather than drop it out of the blue three years down the road.

I sure as hell want my skillpoints back - I was halfway through training them for precisely (and solely) the reason you say you're removing their usefulness. I guess I'm glad I didn't finish the train before you fully made it pointless (to me)?

Other suggestions - some pretty good - were already made in this thread; at the least, talk about it one last time before putting the issue to bed. How people allocate their training time is the largest "mini-game" in EVE - people used to set their alarms to make sure their queue didn't have any downtime, and people still waste countless hours at their desks avoiding real work to play with EVEMon and constantly tweak skill plans that last for years. I know you already realize this - which makes it more baffling that you don't consider SP reimbursements more often (and this is one of those cases that, in my opinion, calls for it).

It was shortly after I started EVE that I got a magic reimbursement for some problem with jump clones - it wasn't a lot of skill points, I'm not even sure the problem affected me, but at the time I was going through a stretch of wondering "is this game really worth a subscription?" and seeing your response to a problem with a measured, timely solution was one of a couple factors that got me over the hump and interesting in keeping my account active (that's not being melodramatic for effect either; of course I ultimately decided to stick things out for gameplay/social reasons, but seeing your philosophy regarding your playerbase in action made a bigger impact than I expected).

tl;dr, I guess: Pretend you've never considered it before, and bring a SP reimbursement or reworking of the shield comp skills discussion up one more time before bluntly proclaiming "this isn't worth making an exception to our policy of not refunding SPs for balance issues." Because, imho, I don't really see the downside to either a reimbursement or adjusting to skill to return some usefulness to it - its all upside for the players, and (hopefully not too much) work on your end.

Suddenly, skills get useless, 4 of them! ( EM shield comp. will retain some glory, as the EM shield resistance amplifier is the only amplifier that you would ever use for that very high 1% of your caldari ships fits )

And I, for one, did actually see/use AIF like a passive mod on quite a lot of fits.

Well, at least, that's a few days of training I'm taking off my skill plan ( skill queue buff! ).

And your paying customers are of the opinion that it is the wrong change to make in this case.

But hey, who cares what they think, right?




I see that your hubris has managed to squeeze everything else out of your skull.

Please change your name to CCP Agamemnon.