Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I hit LIKE on your post. I appreciate you raising these points so I may address them better.

1. These targets, the ones who did not see you till you appeared on grid with them? Enjoy the kill mails, assuming it was not a set up designed to lure you. After all, they have an unknown number of ships cloaked too.
One of the fundamentals is that detection of cloaked vessels is balanced without local exposing them for no effort. With the ability to clean the system of cloaked vessels, comes the responsibility for keeping it clean.

2. Finding you: that coffin has the nails in it from the first point. We can dismiss this concern as DoA for that reason.

3. Emptying null sec. Give me a moment to savor this talking point.... done.
I don't think anyone will notice. After all, what is the difference between:
*A. Pilots who refuse to PvP, and stay hidden in POS's or outposts, or simply log off.
*B. Pilots who moved to high sec.

Honestly, the ones who moved to high sec will possibly see more PvP than they did before moving.

4. Balance or the incredibly overpowered option? Well, Local Chat's ability to perfectly update the presence of all pilots has been described by many as being incredibly OP....
While, oddly enough, noone has ever lost a ship to a pilot who was AFK cloaking, so it becomes awkward trying to call that equally OP....
Admittedly, some are reported to have stopped being AFK at very inconvenient times. The pilots who chose, of their own free will, to venture forth may have suffered losses.

My condolences, I hope the ship was insured.

ive never put as many likes in a thread as i have this.


cloaky fleets carry less combat power than comparable non-cloaky fleets. so its balanced. and if ur talking about blobbing enemy fleets with cloakies, how would that be any worse than blobbing them with the same number of non-cloakies?



didnt u just say ur gang would gank even moderate fleets? i'd say this empowers the smaller gangs that can prepare an ambush against the larger blobs without being obvious in local. and anyone who wants to roam in null isn't immediately obvious to the defending blobbers.


they did, and it was called 'afk cloaking', the most popular PvP strategy in the world. never has so much love come from such a brilliant idea.

No skill required at all for the basic use of an item, that can make you unscannable & therefore untouchable? Sure they may only have a newb ship, but it may be something else instead. there's no way to find out, until they undock.

Let there be docking, but don't let it be absolute as it is now. It should take some effort to stay docked, just as it should take effort to undock someone. As it is, there is no effort at all in staying docked and hidden AFK or active and no way to know if they are AFK or active.

How about CCP making mining barges 100% undockable and only able to mine trit. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Boohoo whine post about my bots and Bears not being able to farm isk 24/7, cry cry cry.

The only thing local needs is for it to be removed like in wh unless people wish to be visible in local channel via a transponder switch attachted to the new safety.

Nick, I really like your idea.

Delayed local for the the above situations and any ship cloaked. Solves the problem of nullbears being too scared of an AFK cloaker.

Denies the active cloaker from knowing if there is a whole bunch of people waiting in a station ready to undock and protect their mining buddies.

He could go and visit (cloaked) any POSs to see if people were there, but he would have to activly fly to them to 'see' if people were there. (have to do something with DScan on POSs for this????)

This has to be one of the best AFK cloaking ideas I have seen.

Nah. Just add a right-click menu feature for each and every entry in local that is available at all times, to anyone else in the same local channel: Warp To. Problem solved.

I like the idea because it is a fair game. The cloaky guy doesn't get intel updates via local while cloaked. So he either has to move around and d-scan or get peoples onto his grid to find them or, he just uncloaks for 5 seconds to get an update via local. This then gives the attentive obeserver a chance to get notice of his presence.

I also like the fact that the same mechanics will be applied on people sitting in POS or station. However, with regards to stations you have to add something. Currently you can't d-scan nor see the local grid while docked in a station. This has to change then. When docked in a station you should be able to see the local grid outside the station and you should be able to run a d-scan.

Ahh, this is a station balance idea.

I also agree, but I refer to it more as the window theory, as in you should be able to look out a window and see who is outside.

The local grid should of course be available. It is a balance issue whether stations owned by friendly corps should permit sharing of their sensors to see more, I won't touch that here.

my opinion is gate cloak should work same as cloaked.

When you jump in, you don't show in local, can't see local, you have dscan and whats on grid.

You'd 'blip' in local when you align/warp and recloak again though.

This.

My opinion on the gate cloak effect, is that it is intended to give a player changing systems time to have their client load everything, and bring them current on their new circumstances.

No, they should be denied local for the same reason they should not be seen in local.
In my view, this grace time should not be a one sided affair. They should have their overview for items on grid as normal, but local chat should be mutually blocked for them.

Noone knows who jumped in, and they can only see the local grid for decision making.