Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This is just silly. The Condor is the designated Caldari tackle frigate. Its damage is trivial and irrelevant, and nobody cares about any damage bonus it has next to the 80% tackle cap reduction mod. Insisting that the monodamage bonus on the Drake is fine is the same as giving the Condor a cap use bonus only to warp disruptors and not scrams, for no apparent reason, and then just insisting that it's fine next to the other tackle frigates that have a universal bonus.

At least you finally admit that the monodamage bonus is a "nerf," but the problem here is that it's not the nerf that was needed. The problem before was that the Drake did good damage at long range AND had a stupidly strong tank. You could have dealt with that issue in a straightforward, simple way, following the clear pattern that you already set up in the successful frigate and cruiser rebalancing. Instead you just went off in the weeds, randomly making the "better" BCs worse, and not making the bad BCs better in any clear way.

You also still haven't given any rational reason to explain why Caldari have a viable, clearly focused, long range attack missile ship in every category except Battlecruiser. How do you justify having the Kestrel, the Caracal, and the Raven being set up like they are, and then leaving the Drake as the odd bird out, having nothing in common with the rest of the missile boats for this race, other than being ugly and slow, and using missiles?

It's obvious that the Ferox cannot be the "attack" ship here, because medium rails just don't cut it in that role. The only thing it can be good at is the combat role, which you still refuse to let it actually be by giving it a sensible damage bonus rather than the silly optimal buff. And the tier 3s are not attack ships; they're snipers, because they use large weapons, which can't hit diddly that is small, moving, or close.

So why do we have two "tank" ships with mediocre DPS and range, a dedicated gank wagon, and no attack ships at all in the battlecruiser class? These aren't just cruisers with gang links, as you have clearly told us by making them a whole other class that we are forced to train through between cruisers and battleships. So why is this class not balanced in the same sensible way as the others?

You can keep on spinning this however you want, but the fact remains that the Drake as it stands now is not "balanced," it's just worse. It could easily have been made very good at one thing, without being good at everything, which is the reason everyone complained about it in the first place (and which was ostensibly the entire goal of this "rebalancing," or so you told us when it all began).

You also can't get around the fact that, since the HML nerf, the Drake is now in the position of having the exact same effective range with heavy missiles as a Caracal firing light missiles; and that is just silly.

Obvious answer is obvious: remove the resist bonus and add the same ROF + velocity bonus that you gave all of the other dedicated Caldari missile attack boats, so that the ship is no longer a do everything problem child, but it is good at doing what all of the other attack boats in this race are obviously assigned to do (good long range damage with complete damage flexibility, countered by slow speed and a modest tank).

Drake will remain the cap neut immune, imba super tank.. You speak of balancing and you do not fix the real issue. Drake is super t1 bc that no other can beat in many situations. Drake needs nerf dropping base defense from shields so few prosent wont do.

Oh and amarr and gallente need more loving.. Its nice that amarr gets missiles, drones are nice but not my favorite piece of pie.

This balancing has been long waited do it right. PLEASE

When I read changes second run, I think it cool

Thank you for offering some hindsights on the kinetic Drake bonus variant mr. F - Would you be able to go in depth about your arguments about Drake/Ferox and Myrm/Brutix sharing the same tank bonus instead of creating more flavour? Afterall the Proph/Harb doesn't and the Harb would seem to benefit more from a gun bonus while the Harb could really need the tank bonus instead of the cap bonus...

I haven't read all the comments and IDK if this was proposed...

CCP Fozzie, could you consider giving to some of the tech 1 battlecruiser hulls like 1% bonus per level to gang link strenght (or a static bonus like 3-4%)? I think it won't be OP. That way they could become low-end command ships and people will consider more often actually fitting gang links on their bcs.

Regards.

the problem is said Hurricane/Rupture/Tempest use 2 bonus to get that dps the drake and all the others 10% bonused ship use just 1 bonus and after that they have another useful bonus.

Balance ships, not bonuses.

I seriously hope CCP are trolling us with this one.

No cap rechargers use 1 PG where as Cap boosters (small uses 5 PG) also, fitting cap rechargers to a PVP ship...gtfo

I just want my Prophecies to not be drone boats.