Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Looking at the star map we have a disturbing picture, there is almost no systems without Sov. And the Universe is no longer vast and uncharted, but over crowded and stagnant.

In my opinion in a Universe supposedly as Vast as Eve this is utterly Wrong.


My proposition:

CCP should add 500, to 1000 New 0.0 Systems across the map I mean after all there's plenty of room. (Just zoom all the way out and look at how much empty space there is on the map).

In addition:

The Sov mechanic in place should FORCE Alliances to only be able to Sov what they Use on a minuet/hourly platform. And the degradation from SOvd to Unsoved should be very quick, Forcing alliances to continuously use and maintain their systems in all ways, all the time. Or lose it.

* Remove SU's, and All Sov Units.
* Replace with Degridation / Claim system based on system Use. (IE the more you use it the higher your SOv level gets, the less the lower it drops).

This is realistic, and solves MANY of the 0.0 Issues we are facing today.

1. Individuals from an Alliance must do the following actives in a system in order to maintain said system every Minuet/Hour/ and day:

* Mine
* Rat
* Plex

* If these activities are not done on an hourly basis the Sov begins to gradually Fade, if left alone for more then afew Days the Sov disengages permanently and the Ihub/SU and any other Sov structure self destruct. (If they are not removed with the implementation of this system)

* To ensure that simply doing these activities once in a system can not be used to simply fully reset the Degradation timer, If sov is being degraded you must use the system continuously in order to gradually raise it back up, The De- Degradation process will of Course be much slower then the degradation process in order to FORCE alliance to use their space, and disable them from power Blocking.

2. This not only ensures that 0.0 Alliances and Corps will desire to recruit highsec Industrialists, as well as Pveers (simply to maintain their systems) But it will also encourage them to protect their Carebear Maintainers, rather then let them Rot, as it is these carebears who are now responsible for maintaining their Sovereignty.

3. This ensures that an Alliance can not maintain more space then it actually Uses.

I feel if Eve is to continue to grow this is a necessarily requirement, as it will allow more corporations and alliances to expand into 0.0 without having to conflict "as much" with the larger alliances which they have no hope of beating.

This will also enable there expansion into 0.0 without encroaching on said Alliances territory, maybe even forming pacts and Coalitions in the process. And encouraging more highsecers to try for 0.0 (and I know a lot of people want this)

In addition these methods will ensure powerblocking comes to an end, as an alliance will only be able to sov that which it CONSTANTLY uses every day.

I think we need more areas, yes.

But I would have them be a little different from typical null. I would raise the bar on playing in this space.

See if you like the idea.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=191208&find=unread

I looked at the map right before I wrote this because I was intending on moving into 0.0...

Then I realized something:

I would need to fight huge Alliances which I would have no hope of beating, no matter where I went and "TAKE" there sov from them.

1. I don't care if 0.0 has a lot of empty systems. What I care about is the fact that apparently there are not enough to ensure the current population in eve doesn't have the resources to SoV ALL of them at once, leaving no footholds or opportunities for others who may not be able to compete on the titan / mom scale.

2. This Suggestion is Valid. And a real Concern, people keep whining in other threads about how everyone wants highsecers to come to 0.0, Yet every thread that suggest something which might make them want to, The Op gets Flamed into the ground because it is not "their" way, (which is generally for people to try and take your systems so you get lots of kills and can laugh at them, or that they pay you rent, or whatever other self serving reasons you come up with to justify it).

3. Eve is supposed to be Vast, and Huge full of opportunities for every type of player. It isn't any more.

And I'll bet hard ISK that most of those systems are "uninhabited."


Which will be promptly gobbed up by the large powerblocs and sold to their "pet" alliances.

Adding more systems doesn't change the status quo. It just adds more systems for people to horde.


And those "smaller" alliances will still be stomped because no large powerbloc is going to allow a "neutral entity" to be within "strike distance" of it. For all they know, that small "neutral" alliance was set up by its enemies and is setting up a staging point for an attack.

I'll see your incentive, and clarify the results from more than a few threads to save you time.

Forget changing material reward in terms of ISK value.

Players are desperate to have their play style enabled. High sec is a classic example of this.

Do they want to avoid risk? Some do, but far from all of them fit that category.

For a great many, they simply want to be able to play with limited risk.
And by limited risk, I mean that their game is not dumped upside down to become a surprise BBQ with them being roasted by a ganker.
The perception that they won't be able to achieve anything worth their effort, before something like that happens, is what keeps many of them from setting a ship outside of high sec.

They don't want to take it on faith either. They have a solid place in high sec they can play in, minus the PvP combat mugging they expect elsewhere. And being able to play by their rules is more than enough to make them happy with the lesser reward.

So, if you want them in more places, enable their play style in more places.

This is really exactly how it is.

Set up 0.0 systems with Concord, you'd need 1000's of new systems though to make it work.

The issue isn't space. The issue is the fact that it is easy for Null power blocs to smash the living daylights out of new sov alliances 'because they can'.

They do not use the space, nor do they really have any plans too. But they can still own it without actually being there, as soon as someone starts taking it they can project their forces to that location and destroy them.

Adding more space will not solve that issue, best case scenario is it creates one more power bloc. Other then that, more space will be engulfed just like current space.

As a 'veteran'; I thought you would know such simple concepts.

What really needs to happen is for sov be completely revamped. Instead of the current mechanism it needs to be based on activity. The mechanism for this would be a lot like incursions, and faction warfare. In order to hold space you would need to rat, mine, maintain pos, buy/sell at outposts, and maybe run various control sites populated by the local rat faction to build up or maintain influence points. That would result in the big boys only being able to claim a small portion of space, and also give them incentive to recruit non pvp players.

0.0 is big enough, the problem is in the conquering mechanic. Space isn't determined by how much area you can effectively occupy, its how many Ihubs you can bash before your alliance becomes 100% bored and you can't raise a fleet. If a small alliance tries to take space from a big alliance, even if their forces are stationed 20 jumps away you can guarantee you will have the hammer dropped on you, and if your hammer is of equal size to theirs they can call in blues from 60 jumps away. 0.0 needs to be more activity intensive to control and more difficult to traverse.

Would it make sense to make the valuable/profitable systems nearly impossible (or very hard) to defend to provide a reason to fight over them?
In turn the less valuable systems would be hard to qonquer to provide a form of strongholds for the alliances.

Could it also be, that there are too many ships in the stashes?