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POSes: I am a small portion of the community

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Sha'Uri Dark
VoidRunner's Inc.
#2461 - 2013-01-22 08:34:27 UTC
CCP Seagull wrote:

One expansion worth of work won't be able to address all the problems with the current system, while also giving us all the new possibilities.


I don't think anyone with reasonable expectations are expecting you to do the work in one expansion. If fact I have seen many posts stating the exact opposite. Don't rush it, start the ground work now and get it in place so you can then expand on it in the next expansion. We're not asking for nor expecting you to deliver a 100% completely new system in 1 go, what we're asking is that you get started on it so that maybe by the winter expansion or next spring you can start replacing the existing system with the new one.

Is that really to much to ask for?
Jamie Nardieu
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2462 - 2013-01-22 08:44:03 UTC
I really would like the POS be revamped. Just give me a POS where my ships and assets are safe: as in: people can't just hop in my shiny tengu in the WH. I love to fly in the WH, but went out because my ship was stolen: twice. I need a pve ship, pvp ship, hauler and scanner in a WH to be able to live in a WH.

I don't mean this as to be a carebear. Ofcourse scams and stuff belongs in EVE, but isn't it a bit too easy in a POS?
SuicidalPancake
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2463 - 2013-01-22 08:45:48 UTC
Yep, fix POS's please.

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Chapalyn Toryann
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2464 - 2013-01-22 08:57:59 UTC
I'm not using POSes yet but I basically always had bad return about using them.

Please fix them ! :)
Boraf Flux
Os Terriveis
#2465 - 2013-01-22 09:10:23 UTC
POSes need to be sorted out, we have waited a long time while far less important but more "sexy" issues have been sorted out.
Loki O'Grady
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2466 - 2013-01-22 09:18:25 UTC
Adding another +1 to this thread. Running a POS under the current system is a pain in the neck to do.

A revamped POS system, building it module by module like the ISS, to make it my own piece of space, is what I was hoping to see. That's the kind of customization I would like, something that is lacking in Incarna/WIS.

No-one is expecting the new system to be launched 100% complete, fully-formed as though from the head of Zeus. CCP, you've managed to rebuild some trust with the last few expansions by iterating on gameplay - that is what we'd like to see here; making a start, and expanding on it piece-by-piece.
Zanderiene
Os Terriveis
#2467 - 2013-01-22 09:23:38 UTC
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2468 - 2013-01-22 09:49:04 UTC
Wow, one hundred and twenty four pages and counting. That small portion of the community sure is small Roll

Summary of EvEs last four expansions: http://imgur.com/ZL5SM33

Amallya Trueshot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2469 - 2013-01-22 09:59:57 UTC
give pos some love please. :P
Iri'yana
Corvus Technologies
#2470 - 2013-01-22 10:07:02 UTC
+1

I'm just managing a small high-sec research POS (with ME research slots being as scarce as snow in the Caribean *sigh*), yet even I get the impression that the current POS systems feels a bit "unfinished". Yes, it works to some degree, but it could be SO much more.

A lot of EVE players are builders in their hearts and the "Sim City" aspect of the (formerly?) proposed new POS system really would have endeared them even further to this game. The current system is just weird in that aspect, with a central POS of a hugh 0.0 alliance just looking as much as an assembly of junk floating around a central tower as is the case for a tiny high-sec POS.

Also, a new POS system could open a ways to improve other aspects of the game as well .... something that the new CCP design philosophy seems to emphasize. Think about the ideas for POS modules taking over the current function of local in high-sec (and opening up ways for different gameplay scenarios this way) ,strengthening the role of industrial self-sufficiency of 0.0 making the life of wormhole residents (lacking convinient stattions) a bit easier.

Thus I sincerely hope, that CCP puts POS redesign back on the table ... and preferably not at the bottom of a hugh stack of major design changes.

Iri'yana
phennellenaleen
Capitalist Pig Enterprises
#2471 - 2013-01-22 10:15:07 UTC
+1 for POS revamp in the future and fixes to current system to start now.
Robert Marconi
Capitalist Pig Enterprises
#2472 - 2013-01-22 10:16:35 UTC
Please fix POS
Wolfpack Zydrine
Zat's Affiliated Traders
#2473 - 2013-01-22 10:18:09 UTC
+1
Nagapito
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2474 - 2013-01-22 10:18:11 UTC
Please fix POS
Cain Leigh
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2475 - 2013-01-22 11:06:46 UTC
Please fix this broken POS system, mixing corporation assets with personal assets is bad,

also, in this current system we have to use the corp roles and titles to create secure storage for everyone in the corporation which doesn't allow any form of regulating corporation assets anymore.

This POS revamp CCP promised us is actually the thing that kept me going for the last year....
ovenproofjet
Gallifrey Industries
#2476 - 2013-01-22 11:16:19 UTC
May I make a suggestion, lets meet CCP half way.

Surely some UI improvements/streamlining and some extra modules to allow for "personal" hangar space, would solve a great number of grievances with the current system?

This would act as a stopgap making the whole thing more bearable for players and give CCP more time to get a full POS revamp underway for the Winter Expansion perhaps? I know I'd accept a smaller summer expansion if we were anticipating the full POS revamp in 10months time instead of 4months...

Nimrodion
Xanthium Prime
#2477 - 2013-01-22 11:18:26 UTC
+1

The current POS system is unnecessarily complicated and needs to be fixed, along with corp roles that go along with it. I like the Sims-like method of placing POS modules, since it allows for a precise deployment of modules inside the shield. The problem, however, appears when you want to position modules outside the shield - you have to wrestle around with the camera, with overlapping modules, distance from shield...
Frying Doom
#2478 - 2013-01-22 11:20:09 UTC
ovenproofjet wrote:
May I make a suggestion, lets meet CCP half way.

Surely some UI improvements/streamlining and some extra modules to allow for "personal" hangar space, would solve a great number of grievances with the current system?

This would act as a stopgap making the whole thing more bearable for players and give CCP more time to get a full POS revamp underway for the Winter Expansion perhaps? I know I'd accept a smaller summer expansion if we were anticipating the full POS revamp in 10months time instead of 4months...


18 months time would be fine for the finish of the POS revamp so long as they patch up the current one before starting on the other. Oh and of course without any SOON tags. I think they have burned their bridges with SOON and POS, especially after the announcement that the POS revamp would happen after crimewatch was finished as the same team was doing both.

All we need is a quick fix now and the ability to see progress happen, just no more SOONs.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Nimbor
D.A.R.P.A.
#2479 - 2013-01-22 11:25:51 UTC
i would like to see it imrpoved, enhanced, simplified or iterated on
make it better
Tim fromaccounting
Ferrous Infernum
#2480 - 2013-01-22 11:26:58 UTC
+1 for this thread