Jita Park Speakers Corner

Time for another crowdsourcing of the feature priority list!

Not a full-blown one, no. But the CSM is pushing very, very hard for CCP to get some new POS stuff onto the development agenda. Every one of our theme presentations (sent to Seagull over the weekend) pointed out reasons why this is important.

CSM will also push hard to make the results of the release planning process -- or at least, a broad overview of them -- public as soon as possible after things are locked down.

Thanks for hearing the EVE player community on the POS issues.

You have asked us to wait until the end of February. Fine - you got it.

Then show us some kind of plan - a high-level outline of what you intend to deliver, with estimated dates based on your current understanding of the complexities involved.

We understand it's subject to change. But please, show us some real PROGRESS and some DIRECTION - something we can all believe in and rally behind.

WE WANT YOU TO SUCCEED.

First off, thanks for the response, Seagull.

The tightrope balancing act between repairing the old system and implementing a new one is not something I envy trying to tackle. However, I'm still getting the impression that problems from this "prototype phase" are leading to the issue getting shoved to the back burner. I hope what we, the playerbase, and the CSM can get across is that the reparation part of the "Great POS Overhaul" really needs to get started sooner rather than later, no matter what the Modular Prototype is showing you. It's clearly an issue, it has been an issue for a long time and that is understood by devs and players alike. But really, it's time for some movement on this, even just the baby steps of cleaning up the current mechanics. Nobody expects Modular POSes by May, but nobody wants to be having this exact conversation a year from now either.

Being left hanging with the current system for another 1.5 - 2 years minimum means the players at least need a bone thrown in their direction in the form of the current system being more secure and intuitive. I realize this may interfere with your current expansion goals but quite frankly I'm hard pressed to come up with more than a handful of issues that really require dev attention right now, and getting started on POSes tops the list. If a new shiny thing has to be placed on the back burner instead, I say so be it.

Not really adding anything to the conversation other than wanting to add a voice of support for a POS revamp

I would have a POS for my alts IF it didn't require me to make it a full time job and if it had some of the things that are being discussed in previous posts - parking of ships, etc.... I'm not talking about dumbing it down, but it should be easier than it is. My personal opinion is that if they made it just a bit more accessible to players, POS management would not just be a "small portion of the community".

Like someone few post above of You said: maybe its time for another crowd-voting on priorities?

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If you are going to 'fix it' please remember the following things I've heard others suggest and maybe a few I haven't.

1. XL POS's for carebearing but NOT a bigger weapons array would be nice.
2. Being able to dock in a POS like we do in a station, even if everything is lost if the POS dies is something I doubt anyone would disagree with.
3. Modular POS's would be awesome, something that is like a lego set would be much better then the clunky system that has been the same for almost 9 years now.
4. Please enable a SAVEABLE POS setup, so if I deploy a POS, online it and put all the modules in the field it would begin setting up those modules like my saved configuration. However it would NOT arm any weapon. Please, setting up 12 large POS's during a regional invasion across 3 systems on 3 characters on a Friday night was the first time my wife called me 'a giant nerd for that boring crap.'
5. Please make it easier to open up POS usage to alliance mates or even the general public if we so chose, research slots, build slots, invention slots, copy slots, please make it better then just ME and PE slots we can share currently.
6. A smoother interface would be much appreciated - P.I. has the means to make POS links, routing, roles and such very easy please consider parts of it into the new POS system, however please remember 'the less clicks the better."
7. Please for all that is holy make it easier to move items around a POS, I have a tower in empire with 16 equipment arrays on it, even with the most ideal configuration it can take me close to 10 minutes to move my freighter around the arrays to gather the 96 jobs. I don't see a reason why having limits within the POS shield for moving items or gathering jobs is needed anymore, please, please, PLEASE remove it. If it's not combat related, don't make it 'take so much time' anymore. You want us to pvp more, reduce the clicks!
8. Want more people to use POS's, enable some way for corps to be able to allow any member to anchor a deal with his own POS, without A. spamming the corp with his fuel messages. B. Forcing us to trust him to give him the roles to be able to setup his OWN POS C. Know the very detailed corp system that would enable us currently give a single character roles for his own POS's that is a clockwork nightmare to deal with currently.
9. Open up anchoring in 0.8 to 0.9 for some faction of players that are for 'their faction only' give em rewards, open more moons, everyone wins.
10. Create tools that would allow players to turn POS's in empire systems WITHOUT STATIONS to make those systems usable towards that holding npc empire. Think of the vice-roy idea you guys mentioned to us and we've never heard of again in almost 4 years, it's not as over powered as allowing low sec stations to be controlled, but if someone put up a POS and fueled it for a good long time in a empty 0.6 and players wanted to take advantage of it and pay the owner for the privilege, hey good on them and let em do it.


Yes, I get wordy, that's my thing. I've been dealing with POS's far too long and would love to see them become as easy as certain structures or 'bases' in other games. Owning space or something IN SPACE drew me to EVE and if I could recapture that feeling of building up something in space I'd love to see it draw in others.
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agreed with this topics... Having a POS weapon restriction in hi-sec other then size restriction is a good option

Yes CCP, eve is great b/c of empire, nobody needs POS. Uninstall sandbox 0.0 plz.

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Bring back the old CCP

and give us a POS REVAMP!!!!!!!

Posting to say, "Please do the POS revamp."

I would like to own a POS, and I know many people that do.

Unfortunately it seems you need the excel working skillset of an autistic savant and the patience of a rock to be able to use one effectively.

Thus, until CCP does something about them, they will remain a 'little-used feature' that has the potential to be something nearly everyone uses.

POS revamp, and now kthxbye.