EVE General Discussion

Its really all about opinion; to me 100 mil is a lot of is which I easily make mining no problem. Main reason why it's a lot to me is because I don't have a lot to spend it on so then I'll do silly things with it like by combat ships that sit in station collecting dust.

So you can easily make "a lot "of isk mining if you don't need much to begin with.

Sure. Let's talk about how you euthanized these poor little clones before they could even grow out of hisec then.

I just noticed the OP's name is "NPC"


but anyway, try looking up the in-game item "Ship Fitting Guide" the raven thing is a running joke from years ago.

Here is the question though....aren't people in real life equally capable of distrust? It's something you earn, as much in EVE as with real life. This is how people can trust each other in EVE.

As for some other points, yes, inter-corp combat is allowed, including podding. CONCORD ignores all of it. A mechanic made to allow for corp members to practice combat on each other as well as evil infiltrations such as this. This mechanic is something you should have heard about in your 3 years of playing and is very likely going to be a running criticism to the end of this thread.

You also say that this thread is more of a warning to people to not make the same mistake, correct?

The problem here is that EVE already has a notorious reputation for having the potential for backstabs. Any one who spends a little time researching EVE's past will know this before they ever join. Not only that but you're essentially in place where you're trying to tell firefighters to not put water on a grease fire to which the firefighters respond "well no ****".

And lastly your knee-jerk reaction is going to get you made fun of from here to hell and back. You essentially took that grease fire metaphor I just made and dumped out all your oil and declared that no one should ever cook with it ever again. You're over reacting and look like an idiot doing so.

Your logic is essentially "We'll since this well-known-to-be-unreliable-oil caught fire I'll never use oil to cook with ever again". No, just be more careful about how you pick.

As for people requesting your ship fit it's essentially them asking about which pan you cooked with. By flying a "shiny ship" (in this case a CNR with 7 faction launchers) you become more susceptible to be targeted as people want to steal the very same modules that make it so valuable. To fit this into my analogy it's like using a pan too small for meal you're trying to cook and you're saying "What does the pan have to do with anything? Oil is bad regardless" . No, setting yourself up to get burned is. Take better precautions and learn more about the game so you can cover your bases.

Carry a metaphorical fire extinguisher, use better cooking oil, handle it better, and get a proper sized pan (or only use the smaller one if you're sure).

Translated to EVE: Don't give them roles in the corp so you can kick them the second anything hairy happens, be more selective about who you choose and what you let newer members do, and don't flaunt an expensive ship unless you're around ell trusted people, keep a cheaper but still effective ship on hand when working with people you don't have full trust with yet.

Our newbies indeed commit suicide with their clone set to a station in a system like VFK.

You make a lot of good points.

In my defense . . .

He did not have any roles, but he has to dock to be kicked.

He had just flown 18 jumps to add some DPS to a mission.

He had been in the corp for less than half an hour.

Getting rid of corp members may well have been an over reaction, but I can't afford two losses like that in one week, let alone one day. The main result of the gank, for me, was just more erosion of trust in fellow players. It's easy to say that we can trust most players, but I don't think that is true, and, anyway, which ones?

If corp members can gank each other at will, and I just had a good example of that, why have corp members? Some of the corp members now have ships that are more expensive than that CNR. I have to think of their safety, too.

BTW, recruiting practices have changed drastically. Also, we have an agreement now, that anyone who targets another corp member's ship, unless he is flying a Logi, becomes target number 1. And I make that very clear to new joins.

After this corp was created I met up through one of the members with a few pirates.
Was asked to do a level 4 with them, the CEO needed to crank up his sec status.

All the way during the L4 mission I had my camera turned backwards keeping an eye out for anything fishy.
Nothing happened. We became befriended, even joined the newly Alliance, stepped out of this corp at some point and joined the pirates, even though I'm not one but thought it could be handy knowing how they work and I liked to see a bit more then boring high-sec.

Been in low sec, null sec, blew up a few POS and Sov modules, helped mopping up the remains of IT, got kicked out of Querious by another alliance, and all still was peachy.

Two and a half years later the now Ex-CEO, crawls his way back into the corp in another character and runs away with 3 bil. of my BPO's and all my POS modules.

It's the way EVE works. Either live with it or toss the towel in the ring.




Just one little item, when I left the corp, one of the remaining members send me 3 bil. out of his own pocket.
I'm still thinking of giving it back (no you cannot have it), since I already had written it off.


It's a weird universe out here.
Maybe that's why we're so passionate about it.

No problem with Goons. It's the alts of that RL corp that freek me out, those guys are creepy. Better off solo!

Ok, your first big mistake was making a thread about your loss, second was punishing the other corp members for some others actions. Any good CEO/Leader will acess the mistake he made , learn from it and move on. Trust is part of the risk factor involved with EvE, but you simply can't paint everybody with the same brush, it's a tough call, but most of us enjoy it that way, move on and have fun

The problem is, that it isn't fun anymore.

I've shut down 3 of my 5 accounts. I didn't build those characters for 1%ers to shoot at. They all have value. Why should I waste them in an arena where value means nothing and sheer destruction means everything?

I ran a 4 ship mining team, all my characters, for more than a year. Made ISK, bought things, manufactured things. Basically tried to do CONstructive things. But that isn't what this game is about, is it?

So I tried to find a middle ground. Mission running. It's not constructive, even though it keeps ISK circulating, but it also isn't destructive. And now I find it isn't safe.

I keep playing the game because I USED to like it. Not sure how long that is going to last.

The CNR wasn't my choice in the first place. I fly an SNI now. Much better for my style of play.

I'm not a hoarder. I sell off 4-500 ships at a time, when the market is right. I just don't like to sell rigged ships, and most of what I have is rigged.

I don't need new ships very often because I don't waste them doing stupid ****.