Jita Park Speakers Corner

POS mechanics need overhaul!

:ccp:

Fix poses already!

CCP please fix the POSes
Thanks

Adding my voice to the chorus.

I think a POS revamp is necessary. A large percentage of players in Eve interacts with POSes in one way or another on a daily basis (wh pilots, 0.0 pilots, industry pilots, etc). Additionally a revamp, if done correctly, may open up space structures for a much larger group of players that current are ignoring that part of Eve because it is either intimidating or tedious. As such I think a POS revamp will bring a lot of added value to Eve Online.

The POS system is long over due for a revamp! +1 to the post

An improvement would increase the gaming experience.

Posting for our children's sake.

pretty much most of this, but not this:
"All poses with these services will show up in the overview."
because of this:
"making it possible to have thousands of POSes in a single system"
as that would render the overview totally useless and the search by right clicking in space would be (like the overview) so long as to be useless too.

if someone wanted to offer "public for a fee" services at their station, then there would have to be a separate tab in the search for manufacturing/research/invention area of the UI that stated what and where and a destination could be set from within there the same as can be done with public places now.
you have to factor in remote job skills too, can these public facilities be accessed remotely for research jobs?, or do they have to be done from within the station, can the station owner make them only available to folks who rent an office there so as to make it more exclusive to the station owner's customers, or just the general public.

What about risk? can the single player who owns the station have the station attacked at any time?, or is the station itself off-limits unless the owner's corp is wardec'd
What about the station's residents?, if the station is being attacked are they allowed to legally defend the stations as well?

LOTS of questions to be answered before we can make the leap to a fully realized profitable non NPC station outside of Null and SOV, so for now, let's look at making them work properly and easily, then let's make them look cool and give us players the ability to create our own place to live with a garage and workbench if we'd like and then let's start talking about community building and station interlinking to benefit multiple players by pooling their resources.

As has been pointed out repeatedly, it's likely that a lot more players would use POSes if they weren't so absurdly difficult to deal with (though the size of this thread also suggests that more players are affected by this than certain people seem to realize). I seem to recall some discussion at Fanfest around the idea of smaller groups being able to build structures in space as a sort of sov-lite to deal with the problem of large alliances holding tons of space they don't use. Why couldn't at least the beginnings of a POS rework be part of that?

I think most of us get that it's a lot of work and may not happen all at once. That's fine. If the plan is in fact to tackle this problem in phases over multiple expansions, I can live with that. If it's to throw out the whole idea of fixing this system because "it's too hard," that's not acceptable.

It seems to me that the fact that pretty much everyone on the CSM is displeased about this says something. For all the discussion of Two Step as "the wormhole guy" and Hans as "the FW guy" and so forth, if members representing all these diverse areas of the game are all clamoring for this to get done, doesn't that indicate that it touches a pretty wide range of players?