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POSes: I am a small portion of the community

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Apocryphal Noise
The Harpooner's Rest
#1661 - 2013-01-17 21:11:14 UTC
**** your theme bullshit, how about you just fix what needs to be fixed and stop worrying about this esoteric idea of unity.
Sterilis Comedentis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1662 - 2013-01-17 21:12:21 UTC
Please show the {POS} mechanic some Dev time
Xphya
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1663 - 2013-01-17 21:12:59 UTC
Fozzy theBear wrote:
The POS system needs love...


+1
Xenalu Uitra
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1664 - 2013-01-17 21:14:36 UTC
Fozzy theBear wrote:
The POS system needs love...




+1
Brie DeMarllene
Doomheim
#1665 - 2013-01-17 21:14:37 UTC
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Making something tedious will not stop players doing it if it's very clearly the best option. They'll do it, and they'll hate it

See: everything involving starbases.

From THIS Dev blog back in August of 2011.

Fix the damn things already. I don't care about modular POS's and stuff, just fix the damn UI, and roles system at least.


This is what I'm talking about.
Ato Bee
Sacred Templars
Fraternity.
#1666 - 2013-01-17 21:15:31 UTC
Fozzy theBear wrote:
The POS system needs love...




+1
Shpongleye
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1667 - 2013-01-17 21:16:57 UTC
POS needs an overhaul.
Please keep W-space in mind when looking into any new POS system.
black hawkminer
Sacred Templars
Fraternity.
#1668 - 2013-01-17 21:17:07 UTC
Fozzy theBear wrote:
The POS system needs love...


+1
Wabaadu
Sacred Templars
Fraternity.
#1669 - 2013-01-17 21:18:22 UTC
Beeker Muppet wrote:
Please work on the POS system


PLEASE!!
David Laurentson
Laurentson INC
#1670 - 2013-01-17 21:18:35 UTC
Another small section of the community pointing out that I, too, live in a bubble.


I will note, though, that when Incarna launched and stations were almost unusable due to bugs in the mandatory, broken Walking in Stations stuff... it was nice to chill in wormhole space.
Durnan al'Bastion
Redstar INC.
#1671 - 2013-01-17 21:19:30 UTC
I am interested in POSs being updated.
Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#1672 - 2013-01-17 21:22:07 UTC
"POSes don't need work because only a small group of people use them."

Aaaaand why does only a small group of people use them?

:ccplogic:
Nick Asir
Doomheim
#1673 - 2013-01-17 21:23:09 UTC
Fix POS please
Elevorot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1674 - 2013-01-17 21:24:25 UTC
The POS system really does need to be fixed. I feel bad for all the micromanagement that poor sods have to take care of just to keep the damn things from spitting mail at you.
mkint
#1675 - 2013-01-17 21:25:20 UTC
+1 for not letting greyscale work on the new pos's once teams are assigned.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Count Necrosis
Church Of The Black Sun
#1676 - 2013-01-17 21:25:33 UTC
The reason I don't have a POS is due to the amount of crap I have to deal with to get the thing working. If it were more unified I'd consider making one. Terrible current mechanic.
Celly Smunt
Neutin Local LLC
#1677 - 2013-01-17 21:27:09 UTC
Ivor Spacehopper wrote:
Just get rid of PoS's altogether if the code is not gonna be sorted out



That would be like cutting off your right arm just because it went to sleep instead of waking it up and having it be useful again.

Don't mistake fact for arrogance, supposition for fact, or disagreement for dismissal. Perception is unique in that it can be shared or singular. Run with the pack if you wish, but think for yourself. A sandwich can be a great motivator.

Silvonus
Spacewreck Emporium
#1678 - 2013-01-17 21:27:32 UTC
POS are some of the oldest code, and were never fully developed from the start. Most players understand this, we are not expecting miracles but we do want to see some concrete development happening. POS have been talked about for years as needing fixes, and while there are many areas of the game that also need improving, none is more glaring than POSs. The time is ripe for change.

The arm of POSs is far reaching, affecting nearly every area of the game in one form or another. This is what I feel CCP is worried about when potentially overhauling the entire system. POS affect nearly all of industry, life in null and w-space and corporation management. It is nearly impossible to separate POS from any of these (and more) systems. The risk that something would go wrong is high, even for the slightest of changes. Since the effects are wide, this also has the potential of being the most powerful fix/expansion ever especially if linked to systems like sovereignty, industry and CREST.

Here is what I see are the major areas of EVE that need to be developed:
  • POS and other player controlled structures
  • Industry, production and group mining (ring)
  • Nullsec sovereignty
  • Corporation management

  • Yes, there are more things, but those in my opinion are the largest ones bringing EVE into a “complete” state with no major areas lacking. Now, of those areas, industry is already tied significantly to POS, and while it does not need to be released at the same time as POS, having a new POS backbone to tie into would help it significantly. Nullsec sovereignty is a thorny path. It works currently but has a lot of room for improvement. A POS revamp has the potential not to just affect how we think of POS right now, that is a stick in the bubble, but rather extend onto other player owned and controlled structures, such as I-Hubs, stations, and whatever else we could imagine, which could be then tied into new sov mechanics and methods to maintain and control areas. Corporation mechanics are already so closely tied with POSs, that separating one form the other is hard to do and trying to fix one and not the other only prolongs the issue.

    CCP, you want to have themed expansions? How about this for a theme: “Build your empire.”

    Task half the teams to work on Corporation management and UI, and the other half to POSs. Nothing draws players into game more than being able to claim a piece of land (or in this case, space). Not just something that has your name on it in the corner, but something that you as a player build. You gathered the resources, you teamed up with other players, you fought off those who would compete with you and you prevailed. And these aren't just vanity homes to display pictures, these are the workhorses and the backbone of your military might, your production chain to control the market, the bastion where you live.

    CCP, we know you can pull this off. You pulled off a beautiful interface with planetary interaction in Tyrannis, you've delivered content in Apocrypha on an unprecedented scale, you've paid attention to the details in Crucible and Inferno, you've shown us that you can make a game like none other. The path to greatness isn't easy, but only those who dare the most difficult road reap the greatest rewards.
    Krosu Ronuken
    Church Of The Black Sun
    #1679 - 2013-01-17 21:27:52 UTC
    Viva la EVE Renascence!

    Look back at old mechanics.
    Make them amazing and relevant.
    Make the POS rework the first step on the path to a better EVE.
    Zine Kel'thet
    WILL CYBER FOR ISK
    #1680 - 2013-01-17 21:28:56 UTC
    +1 For a POS Revamp.

    Instead of thinking it's a waste of time to the majority of players, how about you make it worth the time to them instead.