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POSes: I am a small portion of the community

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Ravenstain
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1521 - 2013-01-17 19:26:40 UTC
CCP Seagull wrote:
Both me and CCP Unifex are following this discussion, and will respond when we've had a chance to catch up on all of it and can address and clarify some things properly. Please see CCP Gargant's post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2475724#post2475724



Well thats a start. Good to know that you are keeping an eye in here, but Ill keep any praise to the minimum until you have caught up and actually started taking part in the discussion.
Elder Ozzian
Perkone
Caldari State
#1522 - 2013-01-17 19:26:40 UTC
As a wormhole dweller, i would love to see something done about the POS's. Currently they are horrific: Use of inventory (hangars), fitting services, ship maintenance bays, shooting at them, anchoring, doing the setup, fuel status and overall managing... I would like to get the feeling that the POS is my home, and make it less complex {currently the grid is full of sentrys and stuff}.

My opinion about how POS can be made to feel more like home: Let there be docking bay. Let us walk in our POS. Let there be love with the lonely towers lost in the unknown space of wormhole!

I disagree!
Kelyl Hanh
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#1523 - 2013-01-17 19:27:42 UTC
I use POSes on daily basis and improvements are definitely in order. I would appreciate clear commitment from CCP to fix the issues preferably sooner than later.
Kara Winter
Perkone
Caldari State
#1524 - 2013-01-17 19:27:47 UTC
There may be a small number of people who manage POS's but without them we don't have moon goo and T2 production.

How many pilots will be affected by a revamp... all that want T2... so everyone from miners to pvper's from highsec to the lowest null sov.
Valkyrs
Deep Vein Trading
#1525 - 2013-01-17 19:29:45 UTC
The argument that changing the POS system would only affect a small group of players is ridiculous.

At Fanfest they said they wanted to make the POS modular, be something everyone could have, etc.

I agree there are not a lot of people with POSs right now, but if you change them, that number could grow by leaps and bounds. Just the other day I was speaking to a new player and told him the POS is changing and it won't be long before he might be able to have his own. He was overjoyed at the idea. I guess I'll go tell him the bad news.

I use a POS, it's pretty much the only thing I use. It is a POS in all sense of the acronym, please please work on it!
spanner man
Hexxed Warriors
#1526 - 2013-01-17 19:30:32 UTC  |  Edited by: spanner man
well speaking as supporter of eve online for a number of years now and cant see that changing but a pos overhaul is well overdue mudular pos system and being able to anchor in deap space is something i would be very intrested in come on ccp wake up to the people keeping the game going as a single player we might be a single snow flake but together we make one hell of a snow ball give us our new pos overhaul PLZ Smile
Merisee
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1527 - 2013-01-17 19:30:34 UTC
Jr Instructorcon wrote:
My alliance has a suicide watch style support network for people who manage the 500+ POS/infrastructure my alliance needs.

Stew on that for awhile.


It's true, I was once removed from Logistics because I was "too invested in my work," and that people were "highly concerned." But then they realized I was doing the job of 10 people, and quickly got me the help I needed.

Morgana Noven wrote:
Jr Instructorcon wrote:
My alliance has a suicide watch style support network for people who manage the 500+ POS/infrastructure my alliance needs.

Stew on that for awhile.


We also support multiboxing deployment of towers using supers.


As one of said people, I have had to use my Nyxen in the past to keep up with alliance demands. I shudder to think what they'll make me do if/when I get an Erebus.
Drakar Noir Eoner
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1528 - 2013-01-17 19:31:46 UTC
I fully support a revamp to the POS system as suggested.
Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1529 - 2013-01-17 19:32:10 UTC
Two step wrote:

This isn't the case. CCP has two basically separate decisions to make:
1) To fix the current POS system or not
2) To start work on a new POS system

Now it might be the case that they decide to fix the current system for this summer and start a new POS system after that, or they might decide to start on the new system at the same time they are fixing the current one.

Again, I'd like to remind folks that are actually reading this thread to keep things civil and constructive. Going all nutso will only hurt the chances of getting CCP to work on POSes.


So the question is DOES CCP TRI TO FIX AND THEN REVAMP,
or CCP JUST START TO REVAMP.

Well... Why to do twice a job, if you can only do it once? Only fix a part of the code if it is to stick to the final product... else the job will not bepart of the value aggregation of the feature...

Please read these!

New POS system New SOV system
Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#1530 - 2013-01-17 19:32:44 UTC
And my Giga Super capital Doomsday Gatling Antimatter Cannon.

now I completely agree pos need a total rework, I have setup 3 or 4 poses and it has been quite a pain always to manage and set them, not to mention, they were corp owned, not Player owned which mean I had to take them down each time I switch corp or alike.
Mayfair Boozie
Hammer Holding
Wardec Mechanics
#1531 - 2013-01-17 19:32:44 UTC
I am also a SMALL part of this community, along with my 140man allaince.


Thanks CCP. Go give the goons what they want AGAIN.
Variden
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#1532 - 2013-01-17 19:34:01 UTC
Please CCP, commit to doing something with the POS system.
DethSilver
Return and recover
#1533 - 2013-01-17 19:34:35 UTC
supported

pls give us something new to play with ;)
Argh Prkl
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#1534 - 2013-01-17 19:34:59 UTC
I have never felt more enthusiastic about any upcoming new feature/fix in EVE online than the POS revamp.

Hearing that CCP doesn't feel like it's a priority at all made me legitimately angry, and made all the past explanations about it being difficult to implement etc. feel like excuses.

It's an important game mechanic and should be treated as such.

Please, revamp the POSes.
Alx Warlord
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1535 - 2013-01-17 19:35:04 UTC
CCP Seagull wrote:
Both me and CCP Unifex are following this discussion, and will respond when we've had a chance to catch up on all of it and can address and clarify some things properly. Please see CCP Gargant's post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2475724#post2475724


Thx CCP Seagull, you know what the POS rewor means to us.

Please read these!

New POS system New SOV system
Vallutaja122
The Foreign Gods
#1536 - 2013-01-17 19:36:46 UTC
Approving
i posted somewhere, it would be nice that ccp would do something fitting for pos (like ship one).
Notmo
Exit-Strategy
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#1537 - 2013-01-17 19:37:22 UTC
As someone in charge of a large majority of POS in large chunk of space (5 regions) I'm asking that you please make them less terrible.

Even if that is only making on-lining mods queue or something so I don't have to stare at my screen for over an hour and click a button every two minutes.

When I ask people to go and put a staging tower up, a part of me dies.
Mr Lomz
Lom Corporation
#1538 - 2013-01-17 19:37:53 UTC
What the hell CCP! POS's need love ASAP!! No more delays!
Bazlow
Sabapin Taters
#1539 - 2013-01-17 19:40:04 UTC
There is an armageddon in jita shooting the memorial at jita, the ship name is "FIX MY POS!". I fully support this noble angry capsuleer. Pos upgrades have been talked about for too long.
Hathrul
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#1540 - 2013-01-17 19:40:23 UTC
CCP Gargant wrote:

From page 19:

"Unifex: Once we have a theme, we can begin to thread the issues you've identified as needing to be prioritized into that theme. POS's, for example, desperately need some improvement. How do we fit that work into our theme? Maybe we don't do all of the modular POS work at once, but we start by making some modules, solving the hangar problem, for instance. But that new hangar module would also exist to support other new activities as part of the themed expansion. "


page 15.....just saying