Jita Park Speakers Corner

This is exactly what I said but with better words!
I don't think many people have problems with number 1, they understand this.

People are upset at number 2 because they have been waiting and it always seems to be put off.

Number three was definitely stated and that is why we are posting to prove it wrong!

And yet it isn't a priority like we were led to believe it will be not to mention the player base wants it to be

Long ago they fluttered around the idea of harnessing an asteroid to make a "personal hanger" but it never got off the ground.

It'd be nice to do that, then make nullsec outposts destructable.

I want a POS revamp so people who are put off by the current system can enjoy building a 'home' out in space!

Of coursebyou dont have to reiterate the poses all in one go. That would be suicide, but I think you're selling yourself short - you CCP has just linked two worlds on two different pieces of hardware in to one almost homogeneous unit with Dust 514. Refactoring old code is a thankless task but you CCP brought Carbon into the world so it can be done.

If outposts can have personal hangers why not poses? They could be limited in storage of course, but its too early to talk anoit the detail.

Rework the code so that its more easily manageable and get back to us.

Have fun and stay warm.

As a CEO and recruiter for a large wormhole-based corporation I have to spend HOURS!!! on each and every recruit for a lone reason of current POS-system lacking ability to secure pilots' and corporation assets!

And now I find myself and other alliance members and all those people who voted for Two Step (like it or not, he is WH candidate) and put him into top-voted-for - now we all are "a small portion of the community." !!!

People, including CCP, might be conceptualizing how to deal with the problem the wrong way. The two schools of thought seem to be incremental improvements on the current POS system and a completely new system that will replace POSes in one fell swoop. I can see the former being too piecemeal and inherently flawed because the underlying code is inherently flawed. The second may be too much to be tackled all at once.

So how about creating a parallel system, let's call it "Space Houses" (SH), that will exist alongside POSes for a few years and slowly make POSes obsolete as more and more functions are added?

Assign one team, and only one team, to work on SH. Their job is to list all of the things people currently use POSes for (refining, research, manufacture, storage, etc.), and then pretend that POSes do not exist. If CCP were to try to implement these features for players NOW, how would they go about doing it?

Start small. Maybe the first feature is just a simple, scalable research SH. But it's built on an underlying spine that lets you "dock" and manage all of the research modules attached all at once. Hopefully players would start replacing their research POSes with research SHes.

This spine would be open ended so they could add additional functions each expansions. Perhaps next they add the refining component, then the manufacturing one. It might be a few years before they get to the point where players can start storing and managing their ships in a SH, but by then the code would be robust and well tested.



A couple of months ago I stopped playing EVE and am letting my account expire. One of the things that I considered doing in-game was getting into manufacturing/research, but all the guides I read on the topic made the hassle of dealing with POSes sound like far too much work for a game.

(I heard about this issue because I still follow the EVE community on Reddit. There was so much discussion on POSes for so long, that to hear that CCP is considering not addressing them seemed like something worth commenting on.)

"EVE is hard" is different from "EVE is obtuse, cluttered, repetitive, buggy, and tedious."

POSes as they currently exist are a DETERRENT for a lot of people who might want to delve into the world-building side of EVE. It might look like a "small part of the community" because there are a lot of players who choose never to touch this onerous part of the game.



Edit: CCP Gargant has stated, in post #1172 of this thread:



So it looks like CCP has, thankfully, not abandoned the idea. Even if it is slowly, in bits and pieces, it would likely be best for the community that work start on this very soon.

Fix the damn POSs already. I've never set up one or used one beyond just sitting in the shields I understand the pain that logibros go through so I can have fun playing a terrible game about internet spaceships.

Also its interesting how few people in NPC corps are posting in this thread. I guess everyone outside of such corps are a minority. Even those who do are supporting this.

Strangely I didnt read all 62 pages so I am going to assume that others have said all the things that need fixing. Fix pls.

we realy need this upgrade

all t2 and t3 production is comming from posses