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POSes: I am a small portion of the community

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#441 - 2013-01-17 11:59:30 UTC
Greig Hul wrote:
+1 from me. Do the POS thing please.

Seagull and Unifex would do well to walk a mile in our shoes before condemning us to another 4 years of Soon(TM).


POS have been horrible for a lot longer than 4 years....

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Jonathan Priest
Perkone
Caldari State
#442 - 2013-01-17 11:59:55 UTC
Please fix POS.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#443 - 2013-01-17 11:59:58 UTC
I'd like POS updates too.

Something like 'unified POS storage' would make my day. Having to shuffle stuff between arrays is a PITA

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#444 - 2013-01-17 12:02:33 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Greig Hul wrote:
+1 from me. Do the POS thing please.

Seagull and Unifex would do well to walk a mile in our shoes before condemning us to another 4 years of Soon(TM).


POS have been horrible for a lot longer than 4 years....


I said 6 years, and even I know they've been bad longer than that..

Seriously, I mean.. who made this determination? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see a trend of EIGHT YEARS of complaints about this crappy system of management MIGHT mean that very few people will use it when you sample.

I think I'm gonna have a stroke, the stupid is so strong.

I normally love CCP, but damn. This makes zero sense.
Alyx Vas QuibQuib
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#445 - 2013-01-17 12:03:00 UTC
I am a member of a small portion of the community that runs or lives out of a pos.
Please revamp the pos system. It would also allow me to attract other people to live in POS's
Wormholers lowsec and nullsec people really really need this.
Eliniale
Co-operative Resource Extraction
#446 - 2013-01-17 12:03:10 UTC
CCP, I would like to point out that the support so far amounts to 1% of eve's daily logins

System ideas: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=191928&find=unread
Michael Yanai
W-Space IT Department
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#447 - 2013-01-17 12:03:41 UTC
Even if a complete rewrite does not make sense for CCP at this time, the current system can be drastically improved with some tweaks and/or duct taping code on to it. For example, change module onlining times to 5 seconds, or allow multiple modules to be onlined simultaneously / via a queue. I'm sure similar simple fixes/improvements, expanding on the current system, can be concocted for other issues. While we may not need skinnable POS with jump drives, simply doing nothing is a terrible idea.
Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#448 - 2013-01-17 12:03:58 UTC
Hey CCP, I don't turn up to strat-ops, you know, pvp -a major part of your game- because in one year of playing I've shot enough POSes or whatever they are for a lifetime. I hate it. I sincerely hate those things and I've never even done anything with them except:

A. Form up at them
B. Use a Jump Bridge
C. Shoot them.

Those are three things that shouldn't inspire hate and dread, but here we are.

The number of people who manage and deploy POS towers and **** might be a small minority! I DON'T DOUBT THIS FOR ONE SECOND! Even shooting the things make me wonder why I'm paying for this game. I don't even know what I can say in the defense of GSF's logistics guys that hasn't already been said: This **** sucks. Sov warfare sucks, and it sucks specifically because of these stupid things. Managing a nullsec empire, the little bits and pieces of it that i've been exposed to- is a horrific terrible thing.

The POS as you, CCP, have developed it, is a nightmarish thing that affects a majority of your player base. Nobody likes these things, and they drive nearly every advanced mechanic in the game.

Fix what sucks you doofuses.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#449 - 2013-01-17 12:05:51 UTC
Eliniale wrote:
CCP, I would like to point out that the support so far amounts to 1% of eve's daily logins



Psst. While I don't want to weaken the point, that's 450 or so comments. the maximum concurrent user count is at 54k or so per day. The number of people actually logging in is higher. we don't stay connected 23.5 hours a day.

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Fuzzwork Enterprises

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Cpt Underpants
Caldari State
#450 - 2013-01-17 12:06:01 UTC
As someone who has burnt out of eve not once, but twice because of the burden of POS management... PLEASE FIX THIS MESS.

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Solarais
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#451 - 2013-01-17 12:07:06 UTC
6 years CCP..


Fix it or that small portion of players will most likely leave.

So sick to death of the current system..
Mohavrion
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#452 - 2013-01-17 12:07:20 UTC
hear! hear!
Fix poses plz
Zah T'ahmarr
Doomheim
#453 - 2013-01-17 12:07:41 UTC
Support for fixing the POS system
Dorn Val
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#454 - 2013-01-17 12:07:58 UTC
Heimdallofasgard wrote:
Dorn Val wrote:
First I'd like to say that I understand where CCP is coming from, but that doesn't make the knife in my back feel any better. We were PROMISED a POS revamp, and living out of POSes is one of the shittiest parts of the game.

I agree with Ripard Teg -give us the ability to plant station eggs in W space.


What is it that you understand about ccps standpoint on this? Not trolling... Genuinely curious


They would rather work on a lot of things than to devote an entire expansion to a POS update (according to Two Steps blog post). What that really means is that the current POS system is so FUBAR that it can't be fixed and would have to be re-written from the ground up.

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X4ver
The Eden Trading International Corporation
#455 - 2013-01-17 12:08:10 UTC
Fix It!Fix It!Fix It!Fix It!Fix It!Fix It!Fix It!
And yeah as we're at it...the sov mechanics are **** aswell - just sayin' Roll
vidax
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#456 - 2013-01-17 12:08:11 UTC
The reason I dont get involved in POSes is because of how terrible and buggy the current system is. Still, being in a null sec alliance I am forced to interact with POSes on daily basis.

The argument that POSes only affect a small population is t2 gallente ammo null and void. Make a better system, more people will use it.
SicSemperTyrannis
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#457 - 2013-01-17 12:08:20 UTC
Save a GSOL dude. revamp pos' please.
Ymir Esubria
Brigandage
#458 - 2013-01-17 12:08:54 UTC
Signed. POSes are what drew me into EVE, or to be precise: The idea of POSes. I started EVE with the dream of one day owning my own starbase. The current system feels like, at best, a placeholder for what the POS could be.
POSes are a major part of EVE, and while not every single person who is affected by a POS has to manage one, streamlining and improving POSes can only be beneficial for the game as a whole.

Psychotic Monk for CSM.

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Madlof Chev
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#459 - 2013-01-17 12:09:11 UTC
Tzic wrote:
DJ Rubbie wrote:
Would appreciate some changes that will make onlining pos modules less painful. I wish there is a way to avoid babysitting modules, maybe even select all and online, and accumulate all the timers so they are onlined with the standard timers. So onlining 30 pos guns will take an hour much like it does now.

Also, making pos work easier would increase fuel consumption, thus creating demand thus more economical activities, which can never be bad for EVE.



Imagine a world where you could go to an existing tower and save the setup.

Location of anchored objects
Fore field settings
Reactions
The works

Then you could go to an unclaimed moon, push out a tower and vomit out all of the modules, push a butan, and everything snaps into location with settings already applied and each module anchors and onlines one by one.


holy **** that sounds glorious
Deamos
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#460 - 2013-01-17 12:09:22 UTC
A post of support for you, sir! Fix the POS system, CCP.