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CatanaFleet Red
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-01-10 11:13:04 UTC

Hi there - I think Eve needs a new class of brawler capital ship that can engage large targets like dreads do now (structure Bashing) but be able to have a flexible weapon loadout and bonused Xtra Large weapon tracking for a range of dynamic fleet actions

The role would be flexibile beach head lead and fleet anchor

capital battleship with the following attributes

  • No jump drive (gates only) - but limited to system sec level (ie 0.5 and up is a no go)
  • Fit Xtra Large Weapons
  • Fit a second rack of BS/BC/CR weapons
  • Shorter siege cycle
  • Unable to be scrammed - however anchored bubbles and heavy interdictor works as normal
  • Nimble/fast
  • Specific mods to configure as light carrier, gunboat or other
  • Bonus to remote rep and boost

    • Would need a bit more thought - but these are the basics for discussion - What do you think?
    dexington
    Caldari Provisions
    Caldari State
    #2 - 2013-01-10 11:29:51 UTC
    Are you asking for a mix between a dread and a carrier?, because i really don't think that would happen.

    I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
    Zagdul
    Federal Navy Academy
    Gallente Federation
    #3 - 2013-01-10 11:32:25 UTC
    You're in essence asking for an Orca, but designed for combat instead of industry.

    Dual Pane idea: Click!

    CCP Please Implement
    Hans Downherpantz
    Oblivion Watch
    HYDRA RELOADED
    #4 - 2013-01-10 11:35:05 UTC
    a nimble....fast...v high damage....untacklable ship (conventionally).....sounds balanced
    Beta Miner
    COBRA Logistics
    #5 - 2013-01-10 11:44:07 UTC
    CatanaFleet Red wrote:

  • Fit Xtra Large Weapons
  • Fit a second rack of BS/BC/CR weapons


    • Wow!

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    Christopher AET
    Federal Navy Academy
    Gallente Federation
    #6 - 2013-01-10 11:51:14 UTC
    Blap dreads

    I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance.
    Andski
    Science and Trade Institute
    Caldari State
    #7 - 2013-01-10 12:49:08 UTC
    So you're asking for a ridiculously overpowered ship with two sets of weapon bonuses that would make dreads totally obsolete and can only be countered by titans and supercarriers, further cementing groups such as the CFC and HBC with supercapital superiority?

    Yes, please implement this CCP!

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    Danika Princip
    GoonWaffe
    Goonswarm Federation
    #8 - 2013-01-10 15:03:32 UTC
    CatanaFleet Red wrote:

    Hi there - I think Eve needs a new class of brawler capital ship that can engage large targets like dreads do now (structure Bashing) but be able to have a flexible weapon loadout and bonused Xtra Large weapon tracking for a range of dynamic fleet actions

    The role would be flexibile beach head lead and fleet anchor

    capital battleship with the following attributes

  • No jump drive (gates only) - but limited to system sec level (ie 0.5 and up is a no go)
  • Fit Xtra Large Weapons
  • Fit a second rack of BS/BC/CR weapons
  • Shorter siege cycle
  • Unable to be scrammed - however anchored bubbles and heavy interdictor works as normal
  • Nimble/fast
  • Specific mods to configure as light carrier, gunboat or other
  • Bonus to remote rep and boost

    • Would need a bit more thought - but these are the basics for discussion - What do you think?



    No-one would ever fly anything else. You've just obsoleted battleships, dreads, carriers, logis, battlecruisers of any flavour, and given that anything smaller won't be able to scratch them, cruisers and frigates as well.
    Gizznitt Malikite
    Agony Unleashed
    Agony Empire
    #9 - 2013-01-10 19:41:08 UTC

    Most posts asking for new capital ships are generally bad...

    And here, I think we've found the worst of the worst....
    Nikk Narrel
    Moonlit Bonsai
    #10 - 2013-01-10 19:45:14 UTC
    Danika Princip wrote:
    No-one would ever fly anything else. You've just obsoleted battleships, dreads, carriers, logis, battlecruisers of any flavour, and given that anything smaller won't be able to scratch them, cruisers and frigates as well.

    This.

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    ShahFluffers
    Ice Fire Warriors
    #11 - 2013-01-10 20:01:25 UTC
    Lol

    Oh wait... you're serious?

    Lol

    How did you Veterans start?
    Daichi Yamato
    Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
    #12 - 2013-01-11 00:37:50 UTC
    CatanaFleet Red wrote:


  • No jump drive (gates only) - but limited to system sec level (ie 0.5 and up is a no go)

    • i lol'd

    Understands that regular caps are kept out of high sec...but doesn't understand HOW they are kept out of hi-secUgh

    EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

    Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
    Mag's
    Azn Empire
    #13 - 2013-01-11 01:09:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
    OK here's an idea. How about a battleship, with no warp drive or jump drive capability. It can only be carried into the field of war, with a specialist hauler. Once there and ejected into space, you can board it. You then have to online all it's modules.

    It can fit 8 capital sized guns.
    Only 1 mid slot.
    Only 1 low slot.

    Bonuses, powergrid, CPU and skills etc, to be discussed. LolP

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    CatanaFleet Red
    Doomheim
    #14 - 2013-01-11 02:36:04 UTC
    oops - I meant a square deth star that can tank like a station and move like a frig
    Commander Ted
    Caldari Provisions
    Caldari State
    #15 - 2013-01-11 09:31:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Commander Ted
    Daichi Yamato wrote:
    CatanaFleet Red wrote:


  • No jump drive (gates only) - but limited to system sec level (ie 0.5 and up is a no go)

    • i lol'd

    Understands that regular caps are kept out of high sec...but doesn't understand HOW they are kept out of hi-secUgh

    Arbitrary concord rules keep them out of high sec right and he is proposing a different arbitray rule for his ship? Not a very good thing to nitpick his idea over.

    Heh I like the idea of capitals using gates since they are more mobile and have more gtfo power than normal ships. Oh im not pointed? INSTANT TELEPORT!

    Oh nice pos bash you got their, don't mind my kestre.. CYNO OMG BLAP DREADS.

    However his main idea about the ship is utter rubbish.

    https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174097 Separate all 4 empires in eve with lowsec.
    Feligast
    Brutor Tribe
    Minmatar Republic
    #16 - 2013-01-11 10:21:09 UTC
    Commander Ted wrote:
    Daichi Yamato wrote:
    CatanaFleet Red wrote:


  • No jump drive (gates only) - but limited to system sec level (ie 0.5 and up is a no go)

    • i lol'd

    Understands that regular caps are kept out of high sec...but doesn't understand HOW they are kept out of hi-secUgh

    Arbitrary concord rules keep them out of high sec right and he is proposing a different arbitray rule for his ship? Not a very good thing to nitpick his idea over.

    Heh I like the idea of capitals using gates since they are more mobile and have more gtfo power than normal ships. Oh im not pointed? INSTANT TELEPORT!

    Oh nice pos bash you got their, don't mind my kestre.. CYNO OMG BLAP DREADS.

    However his main idea about the ship is utter rubbish.


    So you'd rather have capital ships able to engage on a gate, in bubbles, able to freely jump when you can't kill them in time after they disengage?

    yano.
    De'Veldrin
    Republic University
    Minmatar Republic
    #17 - 2013-01-11 13:47:05 UTC
    This is one of those ideas that comes up and makes ideas like getting rid of Margin Trading or "fixing" cloaking sound well informed and plausible.

    Why don't we just give everyone the GM modules on their noob ships and get rid of all the others. They're wasted space anyway.Roll

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    Daichi Yamato
    Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
    #18 - 2013-01-11 14:08:17 UTC
    Commander Ted wrote:
    Daichi Yamato wrote:
    CatanaFleet Red wrote:


  • No jump drive (gates only) - but limited to system sec level (ie 0.5 and up is a no go)

    • i lol'd

    Understands that regular caps are kept out of high sec...but doesn't understand HOW they are kept out of hi-secUgh

    Arbitrary concord rules keep them out of high sec right and he is proposing a different arbitray rule for his ship? Not a very good thing to nitpick his idea over.

    Heh I like the idea of capitals using gates since they are more mobile and have more gtfo power than normal ships. Oh im not pointed? INSTANT TELEPORT!

    Oh nice pos bash you got their, don't mind my kestre.. CYNO OMG BLAP DREADS.

    However his main idea about the ship is utter rubbish.


    'super secret invisible cyno jammers'

    as oppose to:
    'jump through gate'
    'umm..no'
    'why?'
    'Just 'cause'

    EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

    Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs
    Malcorian Vandsteidt
    Alpha Trades
    Solyaris Chtonium
    #19 - 2013-01-11 17:10:01 UTC
    Why dont you simply design a Strategic capital ship for each race which you can customize like the T3 Cruisers?

    That would be more relevant I think.


    ** The moros used to be the most versatile Dread due to its Drone bay. It could attack Dreads as well as kill smaller ships, it's sole purpose was to defend the fleet from Frigates through Battleships. While still being able to engage other dreads on a level playing field.

    Then they changed it and now its a piece of ****.
    Elsa Nietchize
    School of Applied Knowledge
    Caldari State
    #20 - 2013-01-11 17:49:06 UTC
    Tech 3 battleships. They're coming. You heard it here fist.
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