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MainDrain
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-01-10 22:34:06 UTC  |  Edited by: MainDrain
In another post somebody asked the question

"how long would it take to learn every skill in the game to level 5?"

Well here is the answer, including all retribution skills (according to evemon)

Total Training Time (No implants, base amarr character, no neural remap) - 9959d, 11h, 42m, 52s This is greater than 27 Years

Total Training Time (+5 implants, no remap) - 7962d, 20h, 12m, 25s This is nearly 22 years.

Using remaps this time could likely be brought down even more, but i dont imagine it dropping below 20 years (2x as long as Eve has been around)

According to Evemon the total cost for all the skill books is 28,728,719,500 (28.7 Billion) Isk

A total of 386 Unique skills are included in this list
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#2 - 2013-01-10 22:39:09 UTC
MainDrain wrote:
In another post somebody asked the question

"how long would it take to learn every skill in the game to level 5?"

Well here is the answer, including all retribution skills (according to evemon)

Total Training Time (No implants, base amarr character, no neural remap) - 9959d, 11h, 42m, 52s This is greater than 27 Years

Total Training Time (+5 implants, no remap) - 7962d, 20h, 12m, 25s This is nearly 22 years.

Using remaps this time could likely be brought down even more, but i dont imagine it dropping below 20 years (2x as long as Eve has been around)

According to Evemon the total cost for all the skill books is 28,728,719,500 (28.7 Trillion) Isk

A total of 386 Unique skills are included in this list




Excellent work, although shouldn't that be 28.7 Billion Isk?

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Merouk Baas
#3 - 2013-01-10 22:39:42 UTC
Yeah.

Training all skills to level 4 (with prerequisites as pre-required) takes a fraction of that, about 5 years, and you can function just as well while not paying a fortune for your hospital clone when you die.
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-01-10 22:42:08 UTC
Great! 3 years down, 19 to go.
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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-01-10 22:42:55 UTC
If you could remap as optimally as possible, you bring this down to roughly 18 years, actually.

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MainDrain
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-01-10 22:43:32 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
MainDrain wrote:
In another post somebody asked the question

"how long would it take to learn every skill in the game to level 5?"

Well here is the answer, including all retribution skills (according to evemon)

Total Training Time (No implants, base amarr character, no neural remap) - 9959d, 11h, 42m, 52s This is greater than 27 Years

Total Training Time (+5 implants, no remap) - 7962d, 20h, 12m, 25s This is nearly 22 years.

Using remaps this time could likely be brought down even more, but i dont imagine it dropping below 20 years (2x as long as Eve has been around)

According to Evemon the total cost for all the skill books is 28,728,719,500 (28.7 Trillion) Isk

A total of 386 Unique skills are included in this list




Excellent work, although shouldn't that be 28.7 Billion Isk?


Balls!! as you imagine after doing this manually (wanted to make sure i got it reasonably close) my brain turned to mush, will edit post. Good spot
MainDrain
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-01-10 22:44:42 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
If you could remap as optimally as possible, you bring this down to roughly 18 years, actually.


I might test this in a bit. However there are a few variables to contend with, bonus remaps etc might speed up the process over just standard once per year remap.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#8 - 2013-01-10 22:45:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
It's Billion.

It's not going to take that long to max mine, as many skills will never enter my head. If I could, I'd removed that 500 SP I got without asking, when I started. (Guess which ones)

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MainDrain
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-01-10 22:50:02 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
If you could remap as optimally as possible, you bring this down to roughly 18 years, actually.


I get it to roughly 19.5, but thats using a good few remaps, ive realised that over 19 years, you get plenty of them!
Name Family Name
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-01-10 23:01:53 UTC
Nice post - could you please post what the total SP would be?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-01-10 23:31:09 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
MainDrain wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
If you could remap as optimally as possible, you bring this down to roughly 18 years, actually.


I get it to roughly 19.5, but thats using a good few remaps, ive realised that over 19 years, you get plenty of them!

I was working off the assumption that you'd have enough to remap every time you started training skills that used different attributes, including skills that have their attributes in a different order.

There are 13 separate permutations of attributes that skills use according to EVEMon, but you'd need several more remaps than that because of prerequisites, etc.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-01-10 23:44:12 UTC
Name Family Name wrote:
Nice post - could you please post what the total SP would be?

Assuming I didn't miss anything, 430,120,500 SP.

So actually your total training time is roughly 18 years, 2 months if you trained at 2700 SP/hr the whole time.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-01-10 23:45:59 UTC
EVEMon uses base prices for skillbooks. A lot of skillbooks are not sold by NPCs and are sourced from sites or completing COSMOS arcs. The 27b figure is likely quite a bit lower than what it would actually cost.

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Daimon Kaiera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-01-11 00:03:08 UTC
I used Evemon to do this a while ago and it did come out to ~10,000 days. Went down ~1700 with max implants.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-01-11 00:12:32 UTC
Daimon Kaiera wrote:
I used Evemon to do this a while ago and it did come out to ~10,000 days. Went down ~1700 with max implants.

I want whatever implants you're using... Shocked

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#16 - 2013-01-11 00:16:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Just added all the skills I'll be training next, to Evemon and it seems I have 755 days and 5 hours until I can remap. Lol

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#17 - 2013-01-11 00:20:31 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Name Family Name wrote:
Nice post - could you please post what the total SP would be?

Assuming I didn't miss anything, 430,120,500 SP.
You probably missed something.

The final number has to be divisible by 256,000 because that's how much a Rank 1 skill takes at lvl V.

One way to figure out these things is to simply count the skill ranks and multiply with 256k, and then divide that with the max or min training speeds — 2700 SP/h and 1530 SP/h respectively.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-01-11 00:26:46 UTC
[quote=MainDrainAccording to Evemon the total cost for all the skill books is 28,728,719,500 (28.7 Billion) Isk[/quote]

Considering the growing number of titans/supers around this only means those are far to easy to get in, and cheap to get.

Need of balance.

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Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-01-11 00:29:16 UTC
MainDrain wrote:
In another post somebody asked the question

"how long would it take to learn every skill in the game to level 5?"

Well here is the answer, including all retribution skills (according to evemon)

Total Training Time (No implants, base amarr character, no neural remap) - 9959d, 11h, 42m, 52s This is greater than 27 Years

Total Training Time (+5 implants, no remap) - 7962d, 20h, 12m, 25s This is nearly 22 years.

Using remaps this time could likely be brought down even more, but i dont imagine it dropping below 20 years (2x as long as Eve has been around)

According to Evemon the total cost for all the skill books is 28,728,719,500 (28.7 Billion) Isk

A total of 386 Unique skills are included in this list

Nicely done. I got past ten years worth and had to go back to work. Thank you.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-01-11 00:37:04 UTC
All skills at 5 would be 434,432,000 SP.

With a fairly optimized skillplan (2700 SP/hour 99% of the time) you're looking at 18 years, 160 days, 19 hours, 36 minutes and 22 seconds.

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