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I am very glad I do not live in your world.

Because in my world, people tend towards making things for the benefit of a target group, if not everyone, and it is the desire to improve the experience of those people that drives development, with profits coming in as a reality check that limits what can be done with the available resources.

[economic rant]
Sure, many people, such as your self, put profits first, and the quality and capability of the product, and the well being of the customer, second. This is why we not only have the CoD and BF series of mindlessly entertaining titles, among others, but why there are so many horrible products out there in general, that only just barely meet the requirements they were intended to, not to mention it is why many economies are in ruins. In theory and practice, the "Profits First" mentality fails, horribly, being sustained simply by government subsidies and bail outs, with taxpayer money.
[/economic rant]


While CCP will benefit from creating tools that strengthen the community, if you think that is the ONLY reason they have done it, or even the primary reason, then I pity you for being so cynical.

If CCP was more concerned with making money than creating their product or providing services to the community, they would have removed the open, player driven economy, made it impossible to attack anyone else in Highsec at all, and done numerous other things to water EVE down into something that average casual couch jockey would pick up and play.

Instead they have stuck to maintaining a game that is still challenging to play, not to mention code, balance, and maintain, listened to, and implemented, player feedback, and generally been a hell of a lot better than most other developers of any genre of game when it comes to doing things for the players benefit, at the cost of an even larger bottom line that they could have gotten by doing something else.




So I want to thank you CCP for giving the community these tools, and for placing more value on improving your game and building the community than your profits.

Question, do we know yet what kind of information Crest will provide for Dust514 players? I know this is probably not the best area to ask in, and that answering it might not be allowed. However, it'd be nice to know for a project I'm working on.

The fact that we cannot charge for access to anything we build with the API is very disappointing. I was intending to create a very large web application using the API that would total thousands of development hours with myself and another developer, but if we cannot even collect a small fee if necessary to cover our costs and development time then it is just not financially viable to spend so much development time on.

I hope CCP will reconsider letting thirdp arty developers charge for the hard work they put into making tools for the game.

Also for any Devs, the legal@ccpgames.com email address is not accepting mail.


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I'd have some questions:

1) How can I deal with not accepting RMT, EULA breaking ads?

None of us small time developers have their own advertising network so we have to rely on Google Ads and similar.

The RMT and EULA breaking ads spawn continuously and there's a limit on how many can be blacklisted. Even on prominent "legit and known good" sites like Chribba's EvE search those ads may appear.

If you want to help apps developers you should provide some CCP made ads wedge / filter with the ability to cut off the offending ads that don't suit CCP's standards.

2) Is there a provision to provide markets polling or pushing / queue subscribing? The current way is to (ab)use of the in game cache and upload data on third party sites for further processing and relay. This is quite intrusive, borderline gray area as for the EULA is concerned and many more other burdens.

3) CCP, out of everyone should know how life is a cold, harsh sandbox. If you want to get out the part time hobbyst 3rd party apps status you should create a revenue scheme for professional developers that makes it worth investing time in developing EvE apps. Make it something of a "opt in gold app membership" where, out of a possible same developer apps pool, the developer may choose some for gold membership, involving:

- for the developer the ability to charge
- for CCP the ability to claim a developer revenue percentage (CCP can monitor how many apps get bought or even create a mini-Steam) or a license fee.

I cannot wait to get a hold of CREST. However, can you pretty please add the player's/corp factional warfare affiliation to one of the CREST resources? I'd really really like to update some websites to deny access once a corp leaves militia. It is currently a PITA to manually check the 10's of corps/alliances to make sure they didn't leave militia.

It can't be enforced in a lot of places; it will be classed as Restriction of Trade and that is heavily frowned upon.

I used to love such clauses in my past contracts; by having that in a contract it meant that I could have it terminated at any time on the grounds of it being a not-legal instrument. That's got me out of a few horrible contracts in the past.


I am looking forward to coding against this API for sure. I have a couple of applications in mind.

Section 12.15 (Interpretation) has some language about severability. I'm guessing the contracts to which you are referring did not have such a clause?

How about commenting on all the suggestions and various comments on this forum?

Seagull noted that source code will no longer be a requirement:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2464800#post2464800

Any news about beta test?