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What's the max isk per hour for a miner?
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#21 - 2013-01-07 18:41:56 UTC
Inxentas Ultramar wrote:
Don't forget to subtract like 10 mil a person to pay for their Sciento... uhhhm... James' doomsday bumping cult. Twisted



Anyone who pays that should immediately stop playing the game as they are instantly FAIL. If one cannot find some other place to mine, there is a nefarious issue going on or something. I don't wanna know.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
#22 - 2013-01-07 18:43:06 UTC
i mine in jita market hub - without mining vessel
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#23 - 2013-01-07 18:44:52 UTC
Randolph Rothstein wrote:
i mine in jita market hub - without mining vessel



Well, at least you aren't 'mining with a gun' (Drones and Ratting). Lord, remember that ? Roll

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Dave Stark
#24 - 2013-01-07 18:45:32 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
or you could all just do the maths like i did, and realise it's 55.5m per hour mining hed...



Yup. Agree with figure. Unfortunately Hedberg-only sites do not spawn in High (nor I think anywhere).

Transferring these figures for Low sec though....that's a whole other thread altogether. IF it could even exist.


he wants to compare it to null sec ratting, therefore we can assume he's not limited to high sec, which means we can assume rorqual bonuses will be available, there's nothing to stop him cherry picking hed from all the grav sites in indy upgraded systems in sov null... hence, we get our 55m. of course, this casually ignores the fact that you're going to have to haul ore, but if you're in grav sites in null, there's really no risk to jetcan mining with a hulk then scooping it like 4+ cans at a time with an orca or something.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#25 - 2013-01-07 18:52:22 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
or you could all just do the maths like i did, and realise it's 55.5m per hour mining hed...



Yup. Agree with figure. Unfortunately Hedberg-only sites do not spawn in High (nor I think anywhere).

Transferring these figures for Low sec though....that's a whole other thread altogether. IF it could even exist.


he wants to compare it to null sec ratting, therefore we can assume he's not limited to high sec, which means we can assume rorqual bonuses will be available, there's nothing to stop him cherry picking hed from all the grav sites in indy upgraded systems in sov null... hence, we get our 55m. of course, this casually ignores the fact that you're going to have to haul ore, but if you're in grav sites in null, there's really no risk to jetcan mining with a hulk then scooping it like 4+ cans at a time with an orca or something.



Absolutely correct here.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2013-01-07 19:02:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Complex Potential
Thank you for all the answers so far, it's quite an interesting comparison.

It certainly sounds like mining in null would rarely be as profitable as ratting for someone with a single account.

Additionally an orca will set you back close to a billion isk fitted out (I think) and a rorqual is over twice that again (I think). My Dominix cost about 200mil fully fitted and rigged and my Noctis was about 100mil. Using those I can make 50mil an hour in anoms almost from as soon as I log in fairly guaranteed.

If I took the time to scan down a site I may waste my time or I could find a rare item worth billions but that's not really comparable in any case.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#27 - 2013-01-07 19:04:21 UTC
Complex Potential wrote:


It certainly sounds like mining in null would rarely be as profitable as ratting for someone with a single account.




Are you sure about that after pay-off to the Alliance which makes that possible in the first place ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-01-07 19:06:54 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Complex Potential wrote:


It certainly sounds like mining in null would rarely be as profitable as ratting for someone with a single account.




Are you sure about that after pay-off to the Alliance which makes that possible in the first place ?


I'm in the alliance. My combat jump clone pays with his blood nightly so my pampered pve clone can make safe iskies.
Dave Stark
#29 - 2013-01-07 19:08:04 UTC
Complex Potential wrote:
Thank you for all the answers so far, it's quite an interesting comparison.

It certainly sounds like mining in null would rarely be as profitable as ratting for someone with a single account.

Additionally an orca will set you back close to a billion isk fitted out (I think) and a rorqual is over twice that again (I think). My Dominix cost about 200mil fully fitted and rigged and my Noctis was about 100mil. Using those I can make 50mil an hour in anoms almost from as soon as I log in fairly guaranteed.

If I took the time to scan down a site I may waste my time or I could find a rare item worth billions but that's not really comparable in any case.


if your corp/alliance/whatever doesn't have an orca running boosts in indy upgraded systems then they're doing it horribly wrong.
therefore, even for a solo miner you should really always be factoring in mining boosts.

if you've got two accounts, then you'll be pulling in somewhere like 100m if you've got a third party giving you boosts.
Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-01-07 19:11:06 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Complex Potential wrote:
Thank you for all the answers so far, it's quite an interesting comparison.

It certainly sounds like mining in null would rarely be as profitable as ratting for someone with a single account.

Additionally an orca will set you back close to a billion isk fitted out (I think) and a rorqual is over twice that again (I think). My Dominix cost about 200mil fully fitted and rigged and my Noctis was about 100mil. Using those I can make 50mil an hour in anoms almost from as soon as I log in fairly guaranteed.

If I took the time to scan down a site I may waste my time or I could find a rare item worth billions but that's not really comparable in any case.


if your corp/alliance/whatever doesn't have an orca running boosts in indy upgraded systems then they're doing it horribly wrong.
therefore, even for a solo miner you should really always be factoring in mining boosts.

if you've got two accounts, then you'll be pulling in somewhere like 100m if you've got a third party giving you boosts.

I'm sure they know what they are doing but, as I said in the op, I have no interest in actually being a miner and know bugger all about it so I'll happily take the point.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#31 - 2013-01-07 19:11:32 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Wrong thinking. It is cumulative for myself in totem as the characters operate simultaneously.

But go ahead with your bad posting self if it makes you feel better.

What is your point ? That would be a more fascinating answer than the one delivered here.



Than a multiboxing operation with 20 Hulks is >400m ISK/hr, so mining income is 400m/hr.

The only sensible way to talk about income for something as easily extensible as mining is to talk about income/character/hr.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-01-07 19:15:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Complex Potential
RubyPorto wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Wrong thinking. It is cumulative for myself in totem as the characters operate simultaneously.

But go ahead with your bad posting self if it makes you feel better.

What is your point ? That would be a more fascinating answer than the one delivered here.



Than a multiboxing operation with 20 Hulks is >400m ISK/hr, so mining income is 400m/hr.

The only sensible way to talk about income for something as easily extensible as mining is to talk about income/character/hr.

I love hyperbole.

EDIT: There, that's my big word for the day.
Hannah Flex
#33 - 2013-01-07 19:40:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Hannah Flex
Complex Potential wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
There are probably 20 or so threads in various forums giving exact isk/hr rates, but i'd say generally 20-30M. I've read people making over 200-300M/hr in null anomolies, so i think they come out ahead.

That's pretty crazy. Presumably one would have to clear the anoms od rats first? I rat anoms and salvage wrecks but I've never paid attention to the roid in there.


Except that no one really mines in 0.0 except for IRC who have no choice and a couple little corps in the solar renter mass. You need a dedicated 'tank' to tank the rats, clearing them they just respawn. The grav sites are terrible because they are filled with junk roids (spodumain) along with the good stuff and they will not repawn unless you clear out the junk too.

Watch out for them roaming gangs trying to kill you too, or Verge of Collapse popping out of a WH to gank your Rorqual.

So while on paper it may look like mining in 0.0 is the bomb its really a dud.
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Looking for Trouble
#34 - 2013-01-07 19:41:59 UTC
a guy i knew mined with 16 mining toons at once, and 2 in rorqs he made about 1-2 bill a day mining ice lol.
Rengerel en Distel
#35 - 2013-01-07 20:24:07 UTC
Hannah Flex wrote:
Complex Potential wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
There are probably 20 or so threads in various forums giving exact isk/hr rates, but i'd say generally 20-30M. I've read people making over 200-300M/hr in null anomolies, so i think they come out ahead.

That's pretty crazy. Presumably one would have to clear the anoms od rats first? I rat anoms and salvage wrecks but I've never paid attention to the roid in there.


Except that no one really mines in 0.0 except for IRC who have no choice and a couple little corps in the solar renter mass. You need a dedicated 'tank' to tank the rats, clearing them they just respawn. The grav sites are terrible because they are filled with junk roids (spodumain) along with the good stuff and they will not repawn unless you clear out the junk too.

Watch out for them roaming gangs trying to kill you too, or Verge of Collapse popping out of a WH to gank your Rorqual.

So while on paper it may look like mining in 0.0 is the bomb its really a dud.


Sorry, late to return to the thread, but i was talking about null DED sites vs mining. You'll make more doing null PVE vs mining anywhere, at least according to the people that post numbers of what they make.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#36 - 2013-01-07 20:26:34 UTC
destiny2 wrote:
a guy i knew mined with 16 mining toons at once, and 2 in rorqs he made about 1-2 bill a day mining ice lol.



Actually stomach turning tbh. Not good for the game at all.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#37 - 2013-01-07 20:27:36 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
You'll make more doing null PVE vs mining anywhere, at least according to the people that post numbers of what they make.



I'm confused.

Isn't mining in Null a PvE activity ?

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Kestrix
The Whispering
#38 - 2013-01-07 21:07:24 UTC
Complex Potential wrote:
What's the top level? What is the absolute apex of isk per hour for someone solo mining with a single account and what is required in terms of ships and location?

I'm simply interested to know how it compares with null sec ratting even though I have no intention of doing it. With my modest skills, a domi and a noctis I can make over 50mil per hour pretty easily.

Remember, isk per hour please.

Thanks


You'd be better off doing level 4 missions
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#39 - 2013-01-07 21:28:54 UTC
Kestrix wrote:
Complex Potential wrote:
What's the top level? What is the absolute apex of isk per hour for someone solo mining with a single account and what is required in terms of ships and location?

I'm simply interested to know how it compares with null sec ratting even though I have no intention of doing it. With my modest skills, a domi and a noctis I can make over 50mil per hour pretty easily.

Remember, isk per hour please.

Thanks


You'd be better off doing level 4 missions



In High Sec, not really. Unless all skills related are at V, they have been nerfed to hell and back about 20 months ago. Really crappy payout tbh.

edit: typo corrections.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Hannah Flex
#40 - 2013-01-08 00:05:01 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Sorry, late to return to the thread, but i was talking about null DED sites vs mining. You'll make more doing null PVE vs mining anywhere, at least according to the people that post numbers of what they make


Aw yeah Forsaken Hubs in a Talos/Naga is the current thing. I did those for about a month before I never wanted to see another red cross again. Clearing each hub will net about 30m and you can get like 900+ dps out of a mediocre skilled Talos. About 27m ticks average. Some people go crazy with it and box 2-3 Talos' or step up to a Vindicator.

Other people sit their carrier in a tower and assign fighters. They can make a few hundred million a day staring at these red crosses thusly, or I can do that station trading in Jita. As you can tell by my char, I'd much rather station trade in HIGHSEC of all places, even though I live in 0.0. The money is much easier and better for very little effort.
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