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What's the max isk per hour for a miner?
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Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-01-07 18:01:57 UTC
What's the top level? What is the absolute apex of isk per hour for someone solo mining with a single account and what is required in terms of ships and location?

I'm simply interested to know how it compares with null sec ratting even though I have no intention of doing it. With my modest skills, a domi and a noctis I can make over 50mil per hour pretty easily.

Remember, isk per hour please.

Thanks
Temmu Guerra
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-01-07 18:07:56 UTC
Not worth it if your only mining with 1 char.
Rengerel en Distel
#3 - 2013-01-07 18:09:28 UTC
There are probably 20 or so threads in various forums giving exact isk/hr rates, but i'd say generally 20-30M. I've read people making over 200-300M/hr in null anomolies, so i think they come out ahead.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Dave stark
#4 - 2013-01-07 18:10:40 UTC
at today's prices, mining hedbergite, 55.5m/hour without mining drones.
Complex Potential
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-01-07 18:12:49 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
There are probably 20 or so threads in various forums giving exact isk/hr rates, but i'd say generally 20-30M. I've read people making over 200-300M/hr in null anomolies, so i think they come out ahead.

That's pretty crazy. Presumably one would have to clear the anoms od rats first? I rat anoms and salvage wrecks but I've never paid attention to the roid in there.
Temmu Guerra
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-01-07 18:22:42 UTC
Complex Potential wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
There are probably 20 or so threads in various forums giving exact isk/hr rates, but i'd say generally 20-30M. I've read people making over 200-300M/hr in null anomolies, so i think they come out ahead.

That's pretty crazy. Presumably one would have to clear the anoms od rats first? I rat anoms and salvage wrecks but I've never paid attention to the roid in there.



Hes talking about the scan down sites with the ABC. The number he is pulling out is if you are cherry picking the best minerals and moving on.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#7 - 2013-01-07 18:24:14 UTC
Depends on a lot of factors. A plethora of them in fact.

Also, the exact value of minerals changes daily (sometimes hourly), so in a way the question is unanswerable except in estimation.

On the extreme end, with my 2 Hulks and an Orca setup with all relevant skills at V (only thing missing is Michi Implants), I can spend 4 1/2 hours in a Large Hedberg/Hemo/Jasp Site (High Sec) and fill the Orca 8 times netting around 350,000,000. Well over 80,000,000 per hour.

But that is an exceptional circumstance.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#8 - 2013-01-07 18:25:25 UTC
Temmu Guerra wrote:
Complex Potential wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
There are probably 20 or so threads in various forums giving exact isk/hr rates, but i'd say generally 20-30M. I've read people making over 200-300M/hr in null anomolies, so i think they come out ahead.

That's pretty crazy. Presumably one would have to clear the anoms od rats first? I rat anoms and salvage wrecks but I've never paid attention to the roid in there.



Hes talking about the scan down sites with the ABC. The number he is pulling out is if you are cherry picking the best minerals and moving on.


I'm pretty sure he's talking about ratting in Anomalies for 200-300M/hr, which either requires multiple sentry carriers or a pre-tracking nerf Titan.

Or he's talking about mining incomes from 5+ years ago, when you could make 200m/hr mining in Null.

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Dave stark
#9 - 2013-01-07 18:25:27 UTC
Temmu Guerra wrote:
Complex Potential wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
There are probably 20 or so threads in various forums giving exact isk/hr rates, but i'd say generally 20-30M. I've read people making over 200-300M/hr in null anomolies, so i think they come out ahead.

That's pretty crazy. Presumably one would have to clear the anoms od rats first? I rat anoms and salvage wrecks but I've never paid attention to the roid in there.



Hes talking about the scan down sites with the ABC. The number he is pulling out is if you are cherry picking the best minerals and moving on.


the number he is pulling out is directly from his arse.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#10 - 2013-01-07 18:25:39 UTC
Confirming that Mining ISK per hour < Ganking ISK per hour.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#11 - 2013-01-07 18:27:22 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Depends on a lot of factors. A plethora of them in fact.

Also, the exact value of minerals changes daily (sometimes hourly), so in a way the question is unanswerable except in estimation.

On the extreme end, with my 2 Hulks and an Orca setup with all relevant skills at V (only thing missing is Michi Implants), I can spend 4 1/2 hours in a Large Hedberg/Hemo/Jasp Site (High Sec) and fill the Orca 8 times netting around 350,000,000. Well over 80,000,000 per hour.

But that is an exceptional circumstance.


and around 27 mil / hr / character
PalkAn4ik
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-01-07 18:30:13 UTC
Clarifying question:

What is this max? ((Total ISK Made)/(DeltaHours(Login, Logout)))

It takes time to scan down an anomaly, it takes time to setup, it takes time to haul.

All things accounted for, what is the most one can make mining?
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#13 - 2013-01-07 18:30:43 UTC
Ruskarn Andedare wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Depends on a lot of factors. A plethora of them in fact.

Also, the exact value of minerals changes daily (sometimes hourly), so in a way the question is unanswerable except in estimation.

On the extreme end, with my 2 Hulks and an Orca setup with all relevant skills at V (only thing missing is Michi Implants), I can spend 4 1/2 hours in a Large Hedberg/Hemo/Jasp Site (High Sec) and fill the Orca 8 times netting around 350,000,000. Well over 80,000,000 per hour.

But that is an exceptional circumstance.


and around 27 mil / hr / character



Wrong thinking. It is cumulative for myself in totem as the characters operate simultaneously.

But go ahead with your bad posting self if it makes you feel better.

What is your point ? That would be a more fascinating answer than the one delivered here.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#14 - 2013-01-07 18:31:57 UTC
PalkAn4ik wrote:
Clarifying question:

What is this max? ((Total ISK Made)/(DeltaHours(Login, Logout)))

It takes time to scan down an anomaly, it takes time to setup, it takes time to haul.

All things accounted for, what is the most one can make mining?



I believe i said in my post above that the whole thing took 4 1/2 hours. I even do estimation math for you. That's the most I've been able to do in 3 years.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
GreenSeed
#15 - 2013-01-07 18:32:03 UTC  |  Edited by: GreenSeed
with perfect skills/boost and using T1 strips, like you should if you are mining with anything over 4 macks. you should be puling 20m in average, per mack.

the peak extraction should be at 6 macks, any more and time will be wasted micromanaging the roid cycles.

6 hulks is nice too, actually easier to tank and will waste less cycles, since macks have a tendency to leave asteroid down to 30% yield in one cycles due to yield bonus. giving you a wasted cycle. isk/h should go up about 3m or so since you WILL have a hauler.

this is ofc mining in highsec, and on any space. ice should be giving around 10m/h per mack due to travel times.


check http://sourceforge.net/projects/eveiph/ for the details.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#16 - 2013-01-07 18:33:11 UTC
Ruskarn Andedare wrote:
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Depends on a lot of factors. A plethora of them in fact.

Also, the exact value of minerals changes daily (sometimes hourly), so in a way the question is unanswerable except in estimation.

On the extreme end, with my 2 Hulks and an Orca setup with all relevant skills at V (only thing missing is Michi Implants), I can spend 4 1/2 hours in a Large Hedberg/Hemo/Jasp Site (High Sec) and fill the Orca 8 times netting around 350,000,000. Well over 80,000,000 per hour.

But that is an exceptional circumstance.


and around 27 mil / hr / character




edit: also, that would be a lot lower figure than what you arrived at, as the single character would have to haul AT THE END OF EACH CYCLE in a Hulk.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#17 - 2013-01-07 18:36:01 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
with perfect skills/boost and using T1 strips, like you should if you are mining with anything over 4 macks. you should be puling 20m in average, per mack.

the peak extraction should be at 6 macks, any more and time will be wasted micromanaging the roid cycles.

6 hulks is nice too, actually easier to tank and will waste less cycles, since macks have a tendency to leave asteroid down to 30% yield in one cycles due to yield bonus. giving you a wasted cycle.

this is ofc mining in highsec, and on any space. ice should be giving around 10m/h per mack due to travel times.


check http://sourceforge.net/projects/eveiph/ for the details.



If everyone mined with that many Hulks.....................I cannot support that as it is economy killing.

I have an alt that specializes in exploding such operations. Almost 100% successful too. Always, always they are AFK. Always.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#18 - 2013-01-07 18:36:07 UTC
Don't forget to subtract like 10 mil a person to pay for their Sciento... uhhhm... James' doomsday bumping cult. Twisted
Dave stark
#19 - 2013-01-07 18:36:15 UTC
or you could all just do the maths like i did, and realise it's 55.5m per hour mining hed...
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#20 - 2013-01-07 18:38:11 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
or you could all just do the maths like i did, and realise it's 55.5m per hour mining hed...



Yup. Agree with figure. Unfortunately Hedberg-only sites do not spawn in High (nor I think anywhere).

Transferring these figures for Low sec though....that's a whole other thread altogether. IF it could even exist.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
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