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Local - my 2isk worth
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MainDrain
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-01-07 13:10:56 UTC  |  Edited by: MainDrain
Ive noticed on twitter that there has been more discussion about the local chat issue recently so i thought i would put my only thoughts down here and see what people think

Local chat should only show those pilots in space and active by default. Pilots docked up and afk (in space but have not done anything such as opening inventory etc) would not feature in the local list or be able to see it, the instant they make a command they appear in the list.

The AFK Cloaky pilot issue could also be linked into this afk system. If you do not issue a command to your ship for the defined time all modules go inactive, and you e-warp away and loose access to local chat. On return their ship would warp back to the previous location. They're local would need to update gradually, starting with those ships closer to them over a number of second minutes until the list is repopulated. Talking in local makes you appear instantly. Any ship e-warping back from being AFK would be available instantly to all others in the system. Removing some form of tactical advantage.

The time delay could be linked to the sec rating, and size of the system. I.e if you're in 0.4 in a 16au system the list will populate quicker than a 64au system, and a 0.4 list will populate faster than a 0.1 etc

This is a complex issue, and would need to be looked at alongside an overhaul of the d-scan system. but i welcome comments feed back on my ideas
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#2 - 2013-01-07 13:14:51 UTC
Quite an elaborate way of whining about cloakies in your system. Nobody ever lost their ship to AFK pilot.

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MainDrain
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-01-07 13:34:24 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Quite an elaborate way of whining about cloakies in your system. Nobody ever lost their ship to AFK pilot.


not complaining about anything in particular, its just a response to a discussion on twitter between poetic stanzil and a dev
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#4 - 2013-01-07 14:21:35 UTC
I like local. More over I like how it irritates failed blobs who can't catch anyone, useless cloaky pvpers and paranoid carebears alike.

I think it should stay exactly the way it is..

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#5 - 2013-01-07 14:44:57 UTC
Local is already an overpowered tool for it's flawless and instant intel, as it reports all pilots present in a system.

Your idea would weed out the "AFK" pilots, who by some definition have no real intel value as they are not a threat.

Now, I can already see how this can be twisted against the PvE pilots, much like AFK Cloaking was.

They will love you.

Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence What if Local Chat changed, Hunting the Cloaked...
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#6 - 2013-01-07 14:51:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuka Solo
Nikk Narrel wrote:
Local is already an overpowered tool for it's flawless and instant intel, as it reports all pilots present in a system.

Your idea would weed out the "AFK" pilots, who by some definition have no real intel value as they are not a threat.

Now, I can already see how this can be twisted against the PvE pilots, much like AFK Cloaking was.

They will love you.


Fun times.

New AI kind of ruins ganking with rats tho. They have grown weary of e-war modules being used in sites.

Also a fun development.

On a more ironic note.... former site gankers complain about not being able to maximize DPS and tank rats while engaging site runners in cloakys and, demand an AI nerf.

True story.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#7 - 2013-01-07 15:06:20 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
Nikk Narrel wrote:
Local is already an overpowered tool for it's flawless and instant intel, as it reports all pilots present in a system.

Your idea would weed out the "AFK" pilots, who by some definition have no real intel value as they are not a threat.

Now, I can already see how this can be twisted against the PvE pilots, much like AFK Cloaking was.

They will love you.


Fun times.

New AI kind of ruins ganking with rats tho. They have grown weary of e-war modules being used in sites.

Also a fun development.

On a more ironic note.... former site gankers complain about not being able to maximize DPS and tank rats while engaging site runners in cloakys and, demand an AI nerf.

True story.

I heard about one of these using a Pilgrim! They were outraged the rats AI caused them to target them when they tried to gank someone.
Found it hilarious.
Lol

Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence What if Local Chat changed, Hunting the Cloaked...