Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Currently, the minimum bounty for capsuleers is 100,000 ISK. I've seen dozens of people go by with 100,000 ISK bounties, with big ol' bolded "WANTED"s on their portraits. I see no reason for such a low minimum bounty. No one is going to kill you over 100k, and everyone who is anyone can afford to place a larger bounty. I suggest a larger minimum bounty, such as 1mil to 5mil. This would harm nothing and would reduce "Bounty Spamming". True, people could still bounty spam, but it would cost them ten times as much. 100 spams costs 100mil where it originally cost 10mil. Anyone who is serious about bounties certainly would not place a 100k bounty, so there is no harm against legitimate use of the system.

To put it in perspective, you could place a bounty everyone in Jita for 175 to 225 million ISK with the current minimum bounty.

Corporations have a minimum of 20mil, but there are certainly corporations that are smaller than 200 members.

cause then its easier to "filter" high bounties from low bounties for suicide gankage.. thats what he ment i believe

The problem is bounty spamming, and you are stating that because nobody will shoot for 100k, that the old system that allows 100k should stay because no one cares about it. That, my friend, seems off.

@Dave Stark
Your signature seems to state that you enjoy that people can send "Notifications of stupidity" for 100k. I detect traces of sarcasm in that statement. What a waste of the bounty system.

What if people did shoot others for 100k ISK? Then it would be a legitimate use of the system, and that would be a good thing. On the other hand, you can currently place bounties for dirt cheap just to prove that you are an idiot, to annoy them, and to scare noobs, and no one will hunt that bounty. You make it sound like the bounty system working as intended is a bad thing.

Thats right pal! The current system is much worser, compared to the old one. Sure you do not get all bounty within one kill and you can not farm your own bounty. But AS IT IS.. Every stupid guy use THIS system to harass or annoy other people just because they can. If you write something in an official channel in eve and you currently have NO bounty you can be sure that you will have a bounty within seconds! You do not need to know the guy who gave you this bounty nor do you need to have to interact with him before. AND THIS IS JUST DUMB!

CCP must implement a radical brake to stop this lol-bounty-spamming!

I once was a supporter in a help channel in eve. But seconds after the server came up after "retribution", some idiot spend an bounty to all persons he could detect in this HELP CHANNEL.
Have a look at the best bounty hunters out there. Take the kills and the earned money and you will see, that they do not have killed the most wanted people in EVE.. They just have killed most of the 100k - 1mill bounty chars. In other words they are just ordinary gankers who killed someone with a lol-bounty.

CCP MUST reintroduce the brake beeing unable to spend bounties on Chars with null or positive security rating!
And until they will do so I have canceled two accounts, which where payed with real money!

I am not a criminal.. I never done wrong things and I am just an missionrunner who wants to play a game and just wants some fun with EVE. And therefore I do not wish to be harassed from someone with 100k ISK. CCP do not wish to have my real money (Euro) anymore.
So I wish you a nice time with your rest of your customers CCP. I AM GONE!

Before you all claim that I am the only one who hates this bounty system let me say that the last GM used a "mass response" to answer my petition.

Yeah! Me too! Goodbye CCP!

*two weeks later*

Please CCP! I can't live without you! Take me BACK! Here, take ALL OF MY MONEY.

No.. not this time Felsus.
I will come back if it is not longer possible to place bounties on null- or positive security rated chars again.
Before "Retribution" I have played a few hours EVERY DAY. But after the last add- on I just log in to change some skills read a little bit in the help channel (but do not answer any questions anymore) or write something into the forum. No further actions in game. Thats sad. I am unhappy. But I am not willed to pay for a game I do not wish to play. Regardless if it is via ISK or real money.

I have considered to pay my main char with ISK in order to let my beloved char learn something. But I must ask myself.. WHY?
Sure I have the ISK to pay in ISK nearly 13 years (without ISK for new skillbooks).. but if CCP do not change the bounty mechanic I will not come back anyway.
I want to play.. I want to pay! But not under this current conditions.

So CCP.. please change something that it is not possible to place bounties on EVERY known char in game. If someone did something stupid the last month.. lets get them a bounty.. If he has a sec state below 0 (you once had -1) then let him get a bounty. BUT not for asking or answering some questions in your OWN official help channel! Thats nonsense!

It is not just about the notifications. The whole concept is wrong. See it as it is.. have a look at the current list of bounty hunters out there. Take the kills and the earned money thereof and you will see, that the best bounty hunter is not the man with the most honor nor din't he killed the most wanted persons in EVE. He just gaked most of the lol-bounty people out there. But he still is an ordinary ganker and NOT the, from CCP announced, respectable bounty hunter.

The current situation is, that the new bounty system is used for griefing. I do not know if you self or some of your chars have bounty (I do not log in very often ) But try to find out who gave you this bounty, how many of them do you know and how many of them do you have ever made angry.

It is NOW that you get an bounty from someone who you never met in game who just wants to anger you. He doesn't even know you. You have no bounty on your head? Now you have! Not because you are a bad person or you did something wrong. NO! You have a bounty because you refused to accept an invitation for a corp, you helped the wrong people, asked the wrong question or even wrote the wrong things into the forum or elsewhere etc.

I know that a bounty does not give any legal rights to kill or attack me. I ask you.. WHY do you think that CCP does not implemented the ability to spend a bounty on all pilots at start of EVE online years back? They know that this tool is used for griefing.
I never did something wrong! So I do not wish to have a bounty on my head. Especially that I am just a missionrunner who helped other people in the help channel to find a way in EVE.

To have a bounty on my head is wrong. I just want to relax from RL and want to play EVE and give help to other people. I do not wish to get bothered with a nonsense bounty of 100k ISK. THIS bounty gives me a touch of a criminal. I do not wish that.

CCP must re implement the border to only give bounty to persons you have interact with in the past or which have a negative security rating or otherwise did something wrong. The bounty pool is under control of CONCORD-> The police in EVE. Why should CONCORD allow to set a bounty on my head when I have best standings to them?

I loved EVE more than 4 years.. but now I am sad that I tried EVE. Sad but true.

And now I wait for your bounties. ...

Addition:
To have a bounty on my head is a morality disaster for me. Laugh about me. Never mind! But it is what I think. Sorry.
I ever just wanted to have fun in EVE. This bounty thing has destroyed it. Really.

No it can NOT have to do anything what I have done. This char is not my main. But it is strange that THIS char has most of the bounty. He never did SOMETHING except an "Hello o/^" in an official channel!
No scam, gank, spam, "Fxxk you!" or something in this way. THIS char is barely known in game. He is old; but without any skills. So tell me why do I have deserved my bounty? But I think we know the answer. I am against this new bounty feature and others do like it. Thats enough these days.

Furthermore "I'm NOT afraid i might get suicide ganked for a 100k bounty! someone help me!" As I have written it is just an morality desaster for me. And not only for me. My last petition was answered with a mass response from a GM who was obviously nerved about the mass of petitions concerning the bounty mechanic.

100k is meaningless and annoying. It's also harmless, but that doesn't make it a good thing. A 10mil minimum would mean that the buyer has to invest a little, and the recipient will actually be at (minor) risk if they are flying anything larger then a shuttle. I think that makes bounties in general more meaningful gameplay.