EVE General Discussion

a casual player is a person that spends 40 hours a week NOT playing Eve.

Pretty much a casual player plays to relax and have fun. It is a game after all.

In my opinion of course.

I thought I was the only one that played like this :)

well i can only see one question mark, so to address that in the most full and detailed manner which is currently available to me, after much thought and deliberation on the subject that the question is referring to, it would seem that the obvious answer in a situation such as this is:

no, it is not code for carebear.

carebear itself is a stupid word - its effectively just as pointless as calling someone a noob.

bootom line is humans like things to have a nice near order in the index of their lives, so they attach the tag 'carebear' to a whole range of players. Ironically it means different things to different people. It does not mean casusal though so your ok there.

If you have one account you are casual. Most in EVE are. Is it a good thing? A bad thing? Some people like green grapes, some like red. Whatever.

When I played EvE what I would consider in a Hardcore manner while off sick from work, I was on at least 7-8 hrs a day I took part in missions late in the us tz while I am in the uk so that I could still spend time with mygf/family and took part in alarm clock ops against pos etc.
I got an email one xmas day asking me to log on as I was a pos gunner and we were under attack and sneaked away from the festivites to do so.
I once played 17 hrs solid and eventually logged off after a corp mate woke me up shouting me on ts after I had fallen asleep and face planted onto the keyboard typing "luh[';/kj[iujh[.;'il[u" in corp chat.
Basically for 4 years a big part of my life revolved around EvE and I would have at that time considered alot of my corp mates among my closest friends.
Then between alliance/corp wide burnout and real life the fun dropped out of the game for me, because at the end of the day for me it was the people that made the game, I found that without the corp and people I had been with for nearly 5 years there was no fun.
At this point I stopped playing all together and just whored sp until my sub expired.

i r kasual, but EVE is definately the last game i will pay for month to month....

It super caters to me and my insane schedule by allowing me to play when i want, but level always... Skill Up!!

more than any MMO it caters to casuals in terms of the skill que, ,but also vastly rewards those who spend time getting to know its other aspects.

EVE also has the best a**holes of any game i have ever played, and that makes me every time i log in

^^ pretty much this ^^

-A casual player is someone who doesn't give a crap.
-They wait for the next big mmo to come out.
-Someone who doesn't come to the forums.
-A person who can take a 2 week break and not miss anything.
-etc

Casual player only has connections to carebearism or pve because it is harder to be a casual pvper in many cases (though not all). A casual player is someone who pops on for short periods of gameplay at irregular times as you know rl is more important. Obviously if you do missions or mining this is very straight forward. If you do fleet combat though it gets more complicated. Casual players won't necessarily be around when ops are timed and so can miss out. They may also find themselves having to log out in mid-op possibly in hostile space. They also won't have as much time online to do the logistics involved in replacing particular ships or movement ops to front lines etc. This again varies alot though as the bigger alliances have round the clock ops and ship replacement programs.

Some style of pvp do lend themselves to casual players though. Sadly ccp has been nerfing these. Solo ganking was always casual, log on, pop barge, log off satisfied. It has been nerfed. Can flipping related pvp was casual, it has been nerfed through crimewatch (to an extent). Solo hunting in a bomber etc was great casual game play (log on in enemy system, pop ratter, log off) but has been nerfed by dumb npc aggro mechanics (rats defend ratters now). Old war dec farming corps like privateers were great for casual play too but were nerfed long ago. CCP has also been resistant to adding any casual pvp content like arenas or pvp flagging (for good reasons IMO).

Casual pvp styles that still work will are most things solo, and then group related pvp that tends to stay in the same place and not be too time orientated. Of the top of my head these would be Red versus Blue, faction warfare and any camping orientated pirate groups that hold rolling gate camps in one system. In these three cases you can log on and join in at pretty much any time you fancy.

Eve pvp is alot less casual than most games, so people wanting a quick fix are more likely to just load up something else. When I have a spare 30 mins i don't log on to eve, i log on to WOT and i think alot of others are the same. When i have time off work etc then i can play less casually and eve is a much more attractive proposition.

Even if you do have a casual play style you need to fund your pvp somehow which is why ganking was great. Some people manage to have a casual isk source (trading for example) but for others grinding the isk makes casual pvp unattractive.