EVE General Discussion

Stop worrying so much about how other people play the game and you might enjoy EvE even more than you do now.

This.

this really.

"Casual players" tend to not be, and the term is often used as a shield because it's an "everyman" term (think politics). But the real casuals are just playing the game in whatever niche they've found, are happy with it, and don't give two ***** what the grand vision is.

See, that's what I get, too. I'm casual. I'm not going to make oodles of space-cash and run a null-sec empire, nor do I think I'm entitled to my own little "fortress of solitude" out in GOON space. I'm space-poor. My PvP will never be a feature on eve-kill.

Let me translate.



I'm a marketing person who get himself wrong as a game designer and I want to earn more dollares from players that don't really have time to play games. I will sell objects that don't really exist or want to sell currency that doesn't really exists, what will get me in trouble with banking authorities.



I'm a bad player. If I would spend more dollares on the game I would not be broke all the time.



I'm a bad player who has just seen a friend being driven out of the game by a good player. Both my friend and I would not be broke or being driven out of the game if we would be spending more dollares on the game.

In the context of EVE, I think "casual" is best defined by two factors: First, the number of characters/accounts a player puts online at once, and second; the amount of contiguous time they can play.

I consider myself very casual, probably bordering on something most people would call super-casual. Just one account to work with, and on weekdays I login perhaps 10-30 minutes a day (usually to engage in market activity). On weekends, I can manage a bit more contiguous time (2 to 3 hours on one day), so I can do other things, but even that is constrained by time. Activities in EVE consume time like few other games, and the level of planning required means I can plan and execute one activity and then it's done.

High-sec mining is the fastest activity to execute, IMO; I can walk into or out of that in minutes. PvP is usually the slowest; putting a ship together, getting into the empty JC, then tripping over to low-sec and looking for fights. I could walk face-first into a gate camp and speed things up, but that still wouldn't save the time of putting a ship together (the same applies to high-sec ganking). The next slowest would be missions (again, in high-sec). They seem to drag on forever.

No matter what I select though, it's usually just one thing for the session and then I'm out of time.

I'd actually love to know the opposite answer to this question; how much time do the "hardcore" players pour into this game. I can't imagine being online for something like 8 hours straight, but I'm sure there's people that do.

And I honestly think most casual think like you, as do most players (like me) who would be called "carebears" because we like PVE. It's that vocal but small minority of space faring welfare queens who want the game (and the whole real life world) to cater to them rather than them adapting themselves to it that gives "casuals and carebears" a bad name.

They are the ones who will claim we hate them because of how they play. I don't hate them because of how they play, I hate them for who they ARE .

And you've just defined casual player: Someone who is more interested in what they're doing themselves than in what other people are doing.

Hundred hour weeks,
Keeping up with the Joneses --
Hardcore Casual