EVE General Discussion

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I was in an industrial corp way back when, and we got war decced. We chased the enemies all over eve (I was in a heavy missile launcher raven at this point). Then we went to nullsec, and I decided I wanted to be the predator, not the prey and joined a better corp. Took maybe a year.

That's not a carebear, that's smart. There's a difference between risk aversion and risk minimisation. "Honourable" 1v1 is a stupid idea if you're not certain of victory (flying an Atron to fight a Daredevil, for example), and doing nothing to minimise the risk of such a fight and just jumping into it because it's a "risky" activity is also pretty stupid. Finding a way to minimise that risk and smash your opponent - that's just war, and by its very nature, war is an act of cruelty. There is no "fair" in war. But minimising that risk, say getting a mate to come and provide logi for your Atron (because it will need it) is not risk aversion, it's just smart.

On the other hand, avoiding the fight all together, or complaining about getting blown up because you just didn't want to fight, is risk aversion. You're right, PvP players can be carebears, but not because of what you described - only getting into battles you are sure you can win is not being a carebear, it's just smart - the alternative is jumping into battles you aren't so sure about, and that's just stupid.

I started out as a member of Eve University. I wanted to focus specifically on exploration and recon. I spent a lot of time listening and watching Eve University's audio and video files to educate myself. Within 2 months I was in lowsec doing exploration radar/magnetometric sites. After being chased around by some angry Russians in Molden Health, most of my anxiety went away. I was kicked out of the UNI for inactivity (Subscription lapsed) and joined a corporation out in lowsec that I made my home nearby. I continued doing exploration until we moved into Ammatar space.

There were too many hisec systems for me to do exploration so I went into regional trading. I was bored out of my mind so I decided to fit up some t1 fit Rifters and went on roams for the first time with my corpies. I got my first real fight on a kickout station. I undocked only to see a ******* Zealot flashy red targeting me. I instantly engaged him not knowing what the **** I was doing and against the wishes of my FC (Don't ignore your FC btw). I ended up getting under the Zealot's guns and held him long enough to let the station guns kill him. I had so much adrenaline rushing through me that I was shaking all over during and after the fight. I was absolutely hooked.

I still get adrenaline rushes everytime I do pvp, it's the most addicting thing I've ever done in Eve. If you want to have some real fun, fit up some cheap rifters (Only costs like 1 million isk to fit a t1 rifter) and get your ass into lowsec and engage some flashies.

Here is the kill that got me hooked: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14983590

Was a hisec only carebear for close to 6 months. Got bored, kitted out some Thoraxes cos I didn't (still don't) have much of the finesse needed to fight at range. Lost most of them in glorious explosions. Found my virtual crack in the process. For me, exploding ships is one thing that has really got me hooked.


Well, yeah... I would be terrified too.

Most people bear to fund PvP, bearing for fun is not something i can relate too. I played this game one and off for 4 years before i finally jumped into a wormhole and never looked back.

Its not that much different to being in highsec except that to survice you have to rely on yourself and your buddies, not on policemen. I mean what do bears do with all their isk? just make more and more isk and watch numbers in their wallet go up? Thats more like work than a game.

in eve, carebears take risks too. Sometimes they don't realize it at first... but they do.

I tried hisec PI and it sucked. I then tried lowsec PI by making a deal with an Alliance for good Standings and thus better PI taxes. I felt like I discovered a secret goldmine most carebears didn't even dare to touch! I used the funds to buy pvp ships and have some fun. Lowsec PI will let you waste some frigs, dessies and the usual cruiser without thinking to much about it. PI doesn't make huge amounts of ISK but it's easy and doesn't require much input, just some planning, so it's a good way for newbies to raise some ISK for PVP.

Started EvE because I felt I became too old to play twitch based PvP games, so EvE was my "retirement game" where I'd "craft in peace" and "never PvP again".

After about 2 weeks I was in Dark Rising shooting people in Old Man Star.

Then I had RL (nasty work hours) issues so I had to quit all my MMOs (I have about 10 subs running for the MMOs that are still "pay to play") including EvE.

These days I live in Jita's NPC null sec, that is the markets.

Tomorrow, who knows?

Same here, though it took me about three months before I actually did it because I meant to do it. Had a few times where a dude came and ganked me as I was ratting in low sec belts in my money metal Omen. Then I joined a corp and flew around in an Inty without being able to use MWDs and got killed a bunch more, then slowly got better and eventually turned from terrible to just bad.

there was a time....

EvE was a different world years ago (back when we walked to school 8 miles in the snow etc ) I had done the trial and gotten blown up in a reaper in a 0.4. I tried hauling and got ganked by Tiller trying to slowboat the 15km to a gate in low.

Then i moved to derelik. I stumbled upon someone mining which seemed like a good way to make some cash, got talking to him, joined his corp.

At the time you could realisticaly get away with mining in low sec and we struck an agreement with local pirates in a 0.3 not far from Doril to let us mine in peace.

Some pilots were outside the local sphere of influence however. I forget the guys name but he was in a corp called Ascendo Tuum with 2 other pilots one of whom was called 'Helen'. This guy would occasionally show up and blow someone up.

At this point in (well certainly in my) EvE history a battleship was an expensive bit of kit. I got sick of this dude and engaged him during a mining operation. We had 2 mining fit battleships and a mining fit battlecruiser. It went the way you would expect.

so I decided: if you cant beat em join em.

I pestered my way into Ascendo Tuum but they folded days later as its plots moved on to bigger things.

I returned to my birth system and one jump over I found miners. I flipped their cans. A pilot from a corp called 'suicide girls' engaged me and I blew it up. The buzz was unreal.

I then solo roamed low sec in various crap fit caracals and Feroxes picking fights. The multispec ECM was a massive help in this as you could take on maybe 3 pilots solo and cycle your ECM to escape or limit damage, break webs and scrams. I won a fair few fights. During all this time EvE was changing. Fights in low sec invariably ended in 5 or 6 ships arriving to take on my 1

Eventually I stumbled into Bosboger and started a fight with a local pirate from a corp called Vale Heavy Industries. The name was misleading as Vale were pirates. He won the engagement but asked me to join his corp which I did. I spent many happy years with Vale.

We formed one of the first pirate alliances - the Molotov Coalition.

Steadily targets in low sec dried up. Vale moved into mercenary work and also did a stinit in TDE as part of a null alliance.

Eventually i sent a emo message to Vale along the 'thanks for all the fish' lines. That was an epic corp.

Ever since then I have largely operated solo trying to recreate my hayday in EvE. I find it ard to see the point of doing anything except player vs player combat in EvE but my niche disappeared a long time ago.

There was a time.