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Query: High Sec Freighter Manufacturing
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Arya Shurtugal
Angel Raiders
#1 - 2012-12-30 04:51:08 UTC
I'm looking at getting into high sec freighter production. I understand how the entire process works. I've done the math on the production cost and profitability and I've worked out where I want to do the production.

What my query pertains to is whether I can manufacture the Freighters in a POS in high sec. From what I understand, manufacturing the capital components in high sec is not a problem, however I have heard that the X-Large Ship Array cannot be anchored in a 0.5 system and above.

Thanks in advance.
Leopold Jakuard
State Of Unrest
#2 - 2012-12-30 04:56:22 UTC
You can't in hi-sec. If you look at its attributes, it says Restricted To Security Level Lesser Than 0.5.
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-12-30 04:57:05 UTC
Large Ship Assembly Array can build freighters and can be anchored in a POS in high sec.

http://www.eve-wiki.net/index.php?title=Assembly_Array
teklordkaos
JABOFPE
#4 - 2012-12-30 04:58:41 UTC  |  Edited by: teklordkaos
You can assemble a freighter in any hi-sec station with an open manufacturing slot. You should have standing at that npc station and use the correct implants (every little bit helps.) It takes an awful lot of mineral for the various capital components but that is how I do it. A previous reply says you can use a large array on a POS in hi-sec, dunno why you would do that though.
Spectre Wraith
Darwin Inc.
#5 - 2012-12-30 05:53:58 UTC
teklordkaos wrote:
You can assemble a freighter in any hi-sec station with an open manufacturing slot. You should have standing at that npc station and use the correct implants (every little bit helps.) It takes an awful lot of mineral for the various capital components but that is how I do it. A previous reply says you can use a large array on a POS in hi-sec, dunno why you would do that though.


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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#6 - 2012-12-30 05:59:26 UTC
teklordkaos wrote:
A previous reply says you can use a large array on a POS in hi-sec, dunno why you would do that though.


Base time multiplier: 0.75

Isk/hour.
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-12-30 07:16:44 UTC
teklordkaos wrote:
You can assemble a freighter in any hi-sec station with an open manufacturing slot. You should have standing at that npc station and use the correct implants (every little bit helps.) It takes an awful lot of mineral for the various capital components but that is how I do it. A previous reply says you can use a large array on a POS in hi-sec, dunno why you would do that though.


66 hour shorter manufacturing time.
Arya Shurtugal
Angel Raiders
#8 - 2012-12-30 16:49:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Arya Shurtugal
Thanks for the replies.

That sorts out my query, didn't check to see if they could be built in a large one.

Cheers.
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#9 - 2012-12-30 18:02:22 UTC
Styth spiting wrote:
teklordkaos wrote:
You can assemble a freighter in any hi-sec station with an open manufacturing slot. You should have standing at that npc station and use the correct implants (every little bit helps.) It takes an awful lot of mineral for the various capital components but that is how I do it. A previous reply says you can use a large array on a POS in hi-sec, dunno why you would do that though.


66 hour shorter manufacturing time.


Is that really worthwhile, relative to the risk of being war decced by griefer corps? Freighters take a lot of time to build, and it'd suck having to pull down your POS whenever you get notice of a war dec.
Zekk Pacus
RPS holdings
#10 - 2012-12-30 18:30:59 UTC
A large and well-defended POS in hi-sec is going to be a complete PITA to take down and only the most dedicated/incredibly bored griefer corps will bother. And there aren't many of them what with it being a billion times easier to just wardec a couple of carebear corps and sit on the 4-4 undock waiting for freighter pilots who don't read evemails to undock.
Rengerel en Distel
#11 - 2012-12-30 18:32:10 UTC
Salpad wrote:
Styth spiting wrote:
teklordkaos wrote:
You can assemble a freighter in any hi-sec station with an open manufacturing slot. You should have standing at that npc station and use the correct implants (every little bit helps.) It takes an awful lot of mineral for the various capital components but that is how I do it. A previous reply says you can use a large array on a POS in hi-sec, dunno why you would do that though.


66 hour shorter manufacturing time.


Is that really worthwhile, relative to the risk of being war decced by griefer corps? Freighters take a lot of time to build, and it'd suck having to pull down your POS whenever you get notice of a war dec.


The odds of a high sec griefer corp actually pos bashing is pretty small.

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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#12 - 2012-12-30 22:56:00 UTC
its a 40B isk investment, plus a freighter alt plus an indy alt, its a massive undertaking if your looking to making it worthwhile.
Leopold Jakuard
State Of Unrest
#13 - 2012-12-31 07:46:57 UTC
Make sure you have an alt that can fly the freighter from the POS to a station! You don't wanna realize when it's ready in your POS. Also, I didn't know about the large assembly array and freighters so it's good to know.

Getting into the production of capital ships/freighters requires a lot of isk invested in BPOs and in minerals. It may look impressive/painful at first, but once everything is rolling and you produce non-stop, it's still painful.
Connery Domino
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-01-01 18:15:01 UTC
Leopold Jakuard wrote:
Make sure you have an alt that can fly the freighter from the POS to a station! You don't wanna realize when it's ready in your POS. Also, I didn't know about the large assembly array and freighters so it's good to know.

Getting into the production of capital ships/freighters requires a lot of isk invested in BPOs and in minerals. It may look impressive/painful at first, but once everything is rolling and you produce non-stop, it's still painful.


It's painful but worth it.
Baruti Kashada
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-01-02 02:19:35 UTC
you have to have an alt to fly it after right? cause you cant repackage and haul a freighter inside another freighter due to how big it is?
Alyssa SaintCroix
Leihkasse Stammheim
#16 - 2013-01-02 02:37:13 UTC
Baruti Kashada wrote:
you have to have an alt to fly it after right? cause you cant repackage and haul a freighter inside another freighter due to how big it is?


That's correct. They're 1 million m3 packaged just slightly above that of a fully skilled Charon cargo hold.
Firestorm Delta
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-01-02 06:48:08 UTC
Alyssa SaintCroix wrote:
Baruti Kashada wrote:
you have to have an alt to fly it after right? cause you cant repackage and haul a freighter inside another freighter due to how big it is?


That's correct. They're 1 million m3 packaged just slightly above that of a fully skilled Charon cargo hold.


Oh the irony.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#18 - 2013-01-03 00:37:27 UTC
sounds fine to me. Ships sail out of drydock, they're never packaged and loaded onto an assembled version of themselves.

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Leopold Jakuard
State Of Unrest
#19 - 2013-01-03 07:31:22 UTC
Also you really need to produce your freighters non-stop, with little to no downtime on the BPO / BPCs, otherwise you are losing isk with POS fuel. Basically, you trade profit per hull for isk/hour. Which is better really depends on if you can keep up with the production or not.
Ahaz Darkfall
Division One Trade and Aquisition
#20 - 2013-01-03 14:10:43 UTC
Firestorm Delta wrote:
Alyssa SaintCroix wrote:
Baruti Kashada wrote:
you have to have an alt to fly it after right? cause you cant repackage and haul a freighter inside another freighter due to how big it is?


That's correct. They're 1 million m3 packaged just slightly above that of a fully skilled Charon cargo hold.


Oh the irony.

Why risk 2 freighters with one packaged inside the other when it takes the same time to just fly it there and repackage it even if it could fit?

Sure the freighter pilot could then make a return run with minerals for the next build, but it seems an unnecessary risk to me. Freighters do not sell fast either. So the time gained from the POS array 0.75 time multiplier is not worth the cost of fueling a large POS for manufacturing. Unless of course you already have the POS up and running for other purposes.
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