EVE General Discussion

Hello players and Dev's,

I really like EVE, loved space travel ever since startrek and starwars (or babylon and such).


----Where is the relaxation?
What I've noticed about eve is that its all about work, missions, mining, war.. Where is the relaxation?
For a game, its odd that its all about work related. What I would suggest:
right now we have our character walking around in our hangar rooms. Why cant we see other people walking in space stations, we are the bars? Or really visit your corp office.
Really have some relaxation rooms and thus making eve more interactive.
For one, I'd like to have a beer with friends / corpmembers in a corp owned location?
Or on the bar or food stand eon the streets inside a station.
I dont want the game te become something like the sims or anything, pls no. But just something which allows more interaction and feel with the people you are working with.

----The Wardec system,
fine if people wanna war dec, but what is the police/concord in highsec good for then? Any corp with money and high skilled players will destroy the gaming experience of starting players, the lowskilled players just get farmed for easy isk or for fun, as the starting players dont have say one year of skills to stand up against them. In this case its just terrorism and I'd say concord fails.
Say corp A declares war on corp B, why cant corp B say, no i don't want your war. We are in high sec space, if you attack us its terrorism and concord will engage you. The game remembers/stores which players attack who and such, if there has been no action from corp B against any of the other corp/alliance members for say the past weeks, the war dec should be able to be declined by corp B, unless they want the war as well.
Concord swoops in to fry your...ehm ..face when you targetpaint a friend, in the same fleet with both excellent standing, who just wanna test each others shields and tanking. And there is no way to tell concord: Oi dont shoot us, its just a friendly competitions. Again something missing with concord. I wanna be able to say or click, ignore the damage from this player on me.
At the moment the only thing a low skilled corp can do is either flee/run or stop playing the game which you pay to play for week(s) or forever.


---- Omni directional radiowaves with limited radius (not local chat but in space text)
Why can't I send ranged/limited messages? Like ranged/limited to an asteroid belt or small area, planet, station, but in space not in docked. I mean its space.. why cant i send out omni directional radiowaves with a 100km radius?
When other miners pop in, to be able to onscreen shout, a textballoon or sorts. Once again making it more interactive.
This allows you to contact the person, or fleet in the current location/ belt / station, for joining for boosts for mining etc. and thus making the game more interactive. and user friendly.

----Insurance
Why cant i insure a ship for its value or even its base value, ships with a base price over 100mil just get a portion back from the best available platinum insurance. And what about people wanting to insure something like cargo while they are hauling?
Like max half insurance on cargo,( so people dont shoot and loot their own ships.)


That's all for now ^^
-Robin

OK, I'll bite.

The "relaxation" part of EvE was planned for what was long known as "Walking in stations", later as Incarna. It's what's supposed to be on the other side of the Door in the Captain's Quarters.

However, due to the struggles of getting Incarna up and running, internal working of CCP being what they are, the playerbase being disappointed with CCP to the point of seething rage, and CCP's focus shifting over to Dust 514, Incarna has been shelved indefinetely. It may appear later on, but nobody can tell when that will be.

As for wardecs: The NPC corporations cannot be wardecced, so your safe from wardecs while there. The starter corps every capsuleer starts in, for example. But this immunity comes at a price; you're not running your own corp, for example.

But to be serious, if the wardec system is bothering you, then I'd hate to see you out in low-sec or null-sec, where there is no wardec system that establishes rules of war. Out there you'll just be shot and killed.

The Omni-directional radiowave thing is in the game. It's called "Local" and is a chat that everyone in the system can read. There's another chat window called "constellation" that everyone in the constellation can read as well.

Insurance has been altered many times because people were abusing it: Insuring gank-fit battleships, then launching suicide attacks against juicy targets, then collecting the insurance and breaking even.

... to be honest, if you have problems with these parts of the game, then I don't think this is your kind of game.

Since youre new, you just don't understand, give it a year or two, all will be clear.

All those things that you list as work, only get to be worklike
if YOU let them

I run missions, but not for the ISK
I don't care about ISK/hr
I kill sleepers in wormholes, but not for the ISK
so my ships aren't really set for maximising things, they are set for flying around in a way that im happy with depending on what im doing at the time

sometimes I mission alone, sometimes it's with people from my corp/alliance
sleeper killing always needs company, because its not a starter wormhole

i do the things i do, mostly for the chance to play with other people
thats why im playing an MMO and not X3
the people make the difference

Yes I'm somewhat new,

But new people tend to see room of addons/improvement while other players are just accustomed to it and accept it as the way things are.

If a room is dark, you can get accustomed to the dark, but asking for a new lamp might be a little better :)

NPC corps are filled with 'good' and 'evil' players. An non NPC corp, you aren't as alone as with an NPC corp.
While with a smaller corp you get to know the people, and huge corps are good for protection, but can somewhat lack in 'personal' experience.

And local chat is mostly for scamming and not all that wise to chat in, unless you wanna trap people yourself.. shouting in local chat, hey I'm in the belt next to you might get you pounded. Thats why I suggested a omni directional limited range chat, like in the belt you are in.
In the belt people already know you are there, so you don't give out info about you being in a barge or anything to the whole system.

And its because people make the difference in games like EVE, that's why I made these suggestions:) If no one wants changes there will be hardly any :)


Shame to see that the interactivity in stations has gotten shelved.. and that DUST for the moment at least is limited to ps3.

If you want to relax try gate camping with some friends that's pretty low effort and can be entertaining.

The limited chat option is already there in the form of private conversations.

As said before, insurance can be manipulated, and injects ISK into the economy, which is bad.

Wars should not be optional. Sure, they're inconvenient, but they only last a week. If it's really preventing your playstyle, either drop corp, or make an alt. Running level 1 missions in a frigate for a week on a new character will make you appreciate what you have on your main.

While none of this is untrue, I'd like to point out that the technical aspects of implementing WiS was probably the most daunting and ultimate reason it was shelved, player rage and CCP atonement a convenient excuse.

The demand placed on current hardware for one avatar in a 10x10ft cell of a room made it quite clear that dozens or hundreds of avatars congregating in expansive scenes would have been just a little past impossible to achieve. If I remember a dev's statement correctly, even WoD abandoned Carbon, the graphics engine responsible for rendering all that.

Lets be thankful CCP didn't decide to test the next graphics engine on us they way they did Carbon.

Doing that also has a nasty side-effect of making a person appreciate other games more. But I guess that's working as intended?

10 ISK says OP has never left highsec. 15 ISK says that OP got WTFBBQD by gankers recently while "relaxing" (aka AFK MINING), 20 ISK says ...wait... I dont make sucker bets.