Live Events Discussion

I am also pleased to see Intaki secessionists grouped separately from Intaki Syndicate.

I'm disappointed that CCP Eterne has said CCP doesn't "currently support the secessionist movement as a separate faction". Perhaps I'm splitting hairs, but CCP long ago set precedence for the existence of the secessionist movement in EVE even though, yes, there is no official in-game "faction", corporation, or what have you. Regardless, acknowledging in PF that a secessionist movement exists inherently means there is a "faction" in the literal sense of the word.

The following links provide evidence of Intaki secession in official PF:

AURORA's Placid Summit. The page in question is not "locked" and warns that the logs provided by players may not be accurate, but nonetheless makes clear that

In this live event, the discussion which took place between the CCP actor and the players who attended touched on a number of topics, but also specifically on whether or not the Intaki should remain with the Federation, or join the Caldari, or establish independence...as described in this canon news story which followed the event.

Additionally, we have this:

Source. This is an official, locked wiki page. Here is the canon, CCP-approved, news story from 2009 which again makes public acknowledgment of the secessionist faction, from which the wiki article is referenced.

Lastly, one of the official Gallente wiki articles just posted with Retribution specifically mentions Intaki secessionists, here.

Throughout EVE's ten years there have been a number of player corporations and thus dozens of individuals who have chosen Intaki secession as their corner of the sandbox. Even if the official PF references are few and far between, they are still there. For CCP to regard this now as not "officially" supported... Personally, I feel it's a disservice to those of us who have worked hard to make something of those few official PF references. (And if Quafe can somehow count as a "faction"...come on.)

Bataav suggests that Intaki secessionists could be recognized as a subfaction. This I could agree with, but not under Intaki Syndicate as a general start. Instead, consider that the Intaki Assembly has no in-game representation (corporation, agents, stations), and given this is the governing body of one of the major playable races, it sticks out as an odd oversight. The Assembly should represent the general Intaki faction, under which the pro-Fed, pro-State, and pro-secession players would be grouped. Syndicate is related, but separate, as they govern themselves.

Since the Assembly is supposed to have autonomy at home, the pro-Fed, pro-State, and pro-secession would, or should, be lobbying the Assembly, along with the Federation Senate, to bring attention to their position, and thus this is where these players have placed some or all of their allegiance. At the very least, it would be nice to grind standings for the local government my character was born under!

My statement was meant only in relation to us having a point of contact for the factions. We do not have one for an Intaki Secessionist movement and adding one would require more resources than we are currently able to dedicate. There is no corporation for the Intaki Assembly in game, nor is there anything for an Intaki Secessionist movement. This is similar to the lack of a faction for the Equilibrium of Mankind or the Rogue Drones.

The Declare Your Loyalty thread was not meant as a thread for people to state what their RP is. It is a resource for the Live Events team and our faction contact characters. We understand there is a wide variety of individual RP stances, some larger than others, that fall outside this list. I personal like the Intaki Secessionist movement and have since back in the days of Intaki Union. We are not attempting to kick over your sandcastle. We do not have a contacts for the Thukker Tribe, anything related to the Jove, and other groups either.

Thanks for the replies.

I know there's little chance of our chosen faction being swept away completely, and I don't think there was ever any real concern about that happening.

The focus was more on the ability to interact with defined characters from the same faction just as others will be able to. If Quafe is going to get a character, and with a thread looking at EoM (probably the best example of another subfaction in our situation), I couldn't pass up the opportunity to wave our banner a little.

With our own faction confirmed as not being represented part of the concern was wondering who else we might get lumped with, if not the Syndicate. At least you guys didn't go for the Feds!

When more live events get going, in reality it's likely those of us who declared for the Intaki Secessionists will have some interaction with the Intaki Syndicate character, simply due to proximity and what's plausible more than anything.

There's obviously the understanding on CCP's part that players find it extremely rewarding to be able to interact with their chosen faction, whether it's grinding missions for standings, shooting the other guy in the face for picking the wrong side or, in the case of live events, interacting in a more immersive way. If the EVE Illuminati are gathering in January, and the smaller subfactions get discussed then hopefully that's a good thing and we can look forward to what CCP comes up with.