EVE General Discussion

I primarily use sentries but very close orbiting ships cruiser and up I tend to get better results with heavies. Only issue is that unbonused RR range doesn't even allow that half the time.

Maybe a new module, that has the fitting costs of a large repper, does the repping of a small, but at an extended range?
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Nah, don't quite see it work.

Yes, raging at people who are wrong instead of just explaining why they're wrong is bound to get a positive reaction.

Being wrong about something in EVE =/= being a moron. Morons are those people with tiny IQs who jump to conclusions about people they know nothing about. Like yourself, for example. I have since discovered that these skills don't affect sensor dampening, and I'm happy to retract and admit I was wrong. See, that's what smart people do, they admit when they're wrong in the face of evidence. A moron would continue to argue, however, that they were right, evidence notwithstanding.

Or, alternatively, just call someone a moron because they made a mistake. That's a pretty moronic thing to do as well.

Or, I'm not on the forums 24/7 in order to notice every single post in order to read every single little post and response to what I have to say. This is the first I've seen someone correct me on the issue, and it happened only after I discovered for myself that the skills have no effect on damping. I have no problem with being proven wrong. In fact, I welcome it, because it means I learn something. I like learning things. Knowledge is power.

And yet, we've had no problems so far using using drones. Speaks volumes when people with lower skills are struggling less than people with high ones. Qualifications are determined by results, not SP. Kthxbai

EDIT: I don't know if you've noticed or not, but it is possible to buy characters with high skills as a brand new player to the game. There is one skill book that doesn't come with the game character, though, and it's called "Experience at EVE". It's not in the marketplace, because it only exists for the player him- or herself. Time spent on EVE is not a measure of this experience, and neither is SP. How fast you learn EVE and how much of how to do stuff is what matters. Skill points are secondary, increasing them makes things easier, but not having them doesn't make stuff impossible to experience.

To the teamwork people:

L5's

Living in a WH

Living in Null

FW

Incursions

There are enough "teamwork" opportunities in game. And they pay a hell of alot more than L4's.

If I want to socialize I go out with real people, that I know, drink a real drink not called Quafe, then go home to my real home that is not a 20x15 futuristic dorm room. If I want to fly spaceships and interact as I please I play EvE.

There are alot of people like me and we pay our subs with real money. That is why CCP makes sure to have play options for all types of playstyles.

Hmm..

They had several EWAR suggestions, working to variably questionable degrees, and while I personally didn't agree with any of them, my own solution is also using EWAR, go figure.

RR module on a ship means one less gun used in most cases, which is sub-optimal as far as mission completion time goes, aye.
But that starts to go into the "drones as ammo" discussion.

The split weapon system trouble is indeed troublesome, but requires a thread dedicated unto itself, and (as I quite imagine there were a few rounds of it) even that may not help much.

Removing the aggressive stance on drones would have a funny side-effect on fighting Guristas...
Or maybe not, living in gurista space, it has been lately a lot less worse than I thought it would be.
Sensor comp skill at IV.


You didn't even mention the parts where they suggest downsizing guns in L4s to be better able to track/hit smaller ships, that he runs them not for the isk (efficience) but because he likes to shoot stuff and anyone doing it just for the isk is playing the wrong game, oh and suggesting the use of the caldari ewar for a caldari toon (take pride in your race!) against rats when there is too much hostile ewar incoming, would have loved to see him provide a fit on battleclinic, and then the replies to it.

Actually, for people that are genuinely looking for solutions, I've provided my best one a few times. I'm not sure if I offered it here, on this thread, but I'm pretty sure I have given a hint of it. I have held it back for the most part because I'm pretty sure people aren't actually interested in trying new things and just want their comfy old level 4 missions back or something to complain about, but change happens, deal with it or leave.

And that hint is, the new AI is not favouring your drones, it's favouring targets of similar size. If you fly into a mission solo in a BS and launch drones, the frigs are going to prefer to go after your drones instead of your BS.

I'm sure people would rather complain about it than actually put some thought into it, though, so I'll explain it verbatim:

Level four missions are now best done in pairs. I say pairs, because one BS with a score of drones and one fast active-tanked frigate to draw NPC frigate aggro works every time. You don't even need to exploit this "aggro bug" I keep hearing about. Me and a mate have done it this way for six level 4 missions and lost one drone, total, and that was because he launched his drones before my dual rep incursus took aggro, and even then i still took most of the aggro. Frig pilot hits AB and DC, picks an anchor, orbits at top speed and picks off frigate targets of opportunity that stray within weapons range. Meanwhile, BS pilot deploys drones to actively hunt down frigate targets while drawing medium and large NPC aggro and returning fire. Once all frigs are destroyed, all attention is turned to NPC mediums and larges and everything dies quickly and efficiently, thus maximising isk/hour for both pilots involved and taking minimal losses. With the active tanked speed incursus and high frig skills, i haven't had to bail for repairs once, maintained the majority of frigate aggro to leave drones free and un-aggroed to actively engage NPC frigates.

As for EWAR - same tactic. Frigate draws small aggro, BS draws large, make EWAR targets primaries for drones, then once EWAR is dead, business as usual. Additionally, the new skills DO help against ECM NPCs. As for sensor dampening, most of that is delivered by frigates, which will be aggroing your frigate, leaving the BS to still establish targets and apply drones.

All the suggestions I've made are for people who insist on doing it solo. I have been trying to help, thinking outside the box, but all my suggestions have been shot down in mud. But did anyone else have any better ideas? Was anyone really trying to think of better ideas? You don't like my ideas, don't use them. But mock them before you've even tried them? Yep, very mature. Very constructive. Glad to see people are capable of thinking on their feet instead of just whining on the forums... oh, wait...

Well, I am sorry if you feel inferior with your 12kk sp, otherwise you wouldn't read it that way. The reason you "aren't qualified" to post here, is because you clearly do not worry about having most of your offense in drone SP. If you are efficient with your skillpoints and having easy time - which all your posts simply imply, then it means you didn't not fly a drone boat solo in lvl4 as the patch hit. You do not care if "carebears" have issues with drones.

But you do care to come over and post snide comments sprinkled with "adapt" here and there, lol
And the reason I solo is "pals" like you who just have to tell others how to play the game.

Thank goodness for the "hide" icon next to Pollard's posts. Enabling this option has saved my forum IQ from a precipitous drop.