Intergalactic Summit

Today, Directive Arve Vesren of the DED joined the capsuleers among The Summit. It was brought to her attention the case of Machivelli that has been debated here, and she replied that until he had commited any crime the DED could do nothing, they were a reactive force. I don't wish to debate here the reply of the Directive, which is dependent of the status of the DED and CONCORD in general, nor the particular case of Machivelli, though I'll use it as an example.

I believe in the opposite thing. There are matters in which action has to be taken before the crime is commited, once there is proof enough such an outcome is probable. Doesn't matter if Captain Machivelli has controled or not an AI, or lost control of one, or not. What matters is that he tries, and such an attempt means inmediate danger to thousands of people if those drones get out of control.

As I said, I bring a general matter to the debate. I believe that, in matters in which inmadiate danger is clear for many, the DED should sanction actions before the crime is ever comitted. Even more, I believe they should be the ones to act in such an ocasion, if us capsuleers aren't given the right to do so (which I understand, as many of the deviant and lost pod pilots would only use it to furtheir their own pety and egotistic agendas).

I know my opinion is probably not the most extended among the capsuleer comunity, and would like to know what arguments they have to permit something go wrong before they allow themselves to correct it.

Oh, how very droll.

The DED is reactive, always has been.

Incorrect. The Directive Enforcement Department has both reactive and proactive procedures for enforcing the CONCORD mandate.

Actions taken against capsuleers for illegal acts are always reactive, yes. However this is not the only activity CONCORD maintains. It is well known that the DED sends strike forces deep into pirate territory for various reasons, usually to hunt down fugitives.

Highly classified special-ops branches of the DED are also said to operate with diplomatic immunity across all four Empires. Stories suggest the DED has been known to attack and destroy possible threats to the CONCORD mandate with little to no warning. Because of the highly secretive and near total efficiency of these 'sting operations', this is generally regarded as little more than plausible conspiracy theory.

I see it more like a bribe for them to leave us alone.

I really don't see how you can call for DED, or any law enforcement agency, to become proactive in the manner suggested by the OP without serious risk of losing control over said agency. In order for the DED to operate responsibly (and not as a self-contained system of judge, jury and executioner) there must be accountability, transparency and within a set of established laws. Asking the DED to operate otherwise chances creating some sort of secret super police (which some argue they already are in some instances) with vast powers answerable to no one.

Sorry but, we must err on the side of presumed innocence until a clear criminal act has been committed. I really wouldn't want to unleash DED on the cluster as some sort of department of pre-crime enforcement.

Only a fool would cede power and authority to the Assembly beyond what is necessary and I do not think any signatories of the Assembly foolish enough to grant CONCORD the ability in and of itself to potentially threaten sovereign self-interest through further independence and autonomy. If the DED were provided the charter to "prevent" crimes, what else would the Inner Circle of CONCORD then decide they needed to "prevent" and would their acts be conducted in good faith or only as cover for them to grab for more power and authority?

No, the shackles should remain firmly on the Assembly in order to stifle any ambitions they may have to outgrow their purpose.

Personally, far better if the Matari had finished the job in 110. Life would be far better without the daily intercessions of that corrupt farce that calls itself the CONCORD Assembly.

Incorrect.



The key word here is fugitives. Having already committed a crime. Our reaction is to pursue them for their transgressions of the law and bring them to justice.

Our actions are a response to a breach of law, and therefore we remain a reactionary force. Should you look for someone to proactively and aggressively police the area in which you live, feel free to speak with a representitive of your sovereign Navy.



I suggest you do your homework before you make public statements, and I also suggest you don't rely on hearsay and popular conspiracy theories to form the basis of these statements.

Huh... didn't know the fuzz communicated on IGS.

And here I was wondering why all the hairs on the back of my neck are standing up...

Your condescending tone is both unnecessary and inappropriate. I clearly stated in several ways that such stories were merely stories, even conspiracy theory. I did not claim them to be true.

See: Fugitives.

'Sansha's Nation' have been invading empire space for some time now. You don't get to declare war and then complain that the other side is fighting back.

And no, I'm not interested in going back into history and debate who shot who first. That war was over long before this conflict began.