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Level 5 Missions = Almost Impossible with Drone Boats / Carriers

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Budrick3
Moira.
#1 - 2012-12-09 16:54:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Budrick3
Welcome to my thread all the adapt or die 16 year olds with their first credit card. I look forward to reading all the players who trained for artillery spec 5 in the following posts.

To those of you like myself who are specialized in drone mechanics, the recent patch was a serious blow to the nuts rendering anyone that uses them to attain ISK without a means to capitalize. *This is your que trolls, insert your comments now.

I don't even mind if my drones receive agro, but if the second that I deploy them, I loose them, or need to recall them, then this would declare to me this is borked. I've started several missions, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that I either loose one within the first 30 seconds, or have one seriously in hull. I've tried remote repping them, etc. They die to fast.

Oh these carebears tears are delicious I know. I have that butt hole mentality too for those that just pile their isk, and don't use it to buy ships for pvp. But my livelihood in eve has seriously been affected due to the path I have taken for my skill set. I will adapt, after a month or so of training for another ship if ccp has not made any stance on changes, but I find it sad and re re at the same time to render an entire class of ships (drone boats) completely useless.

Let me reiterate what I'm saying. I don't mind rats switching agro, but slow it down for Pete's sake. I mean holy crap.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-12-09 16:57:24 UTC
You seem upset about something.

Would it help if you shared?
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#3 - 2012-12-09 16:59:47 UTC
I think you accidentally hit = instead of typing 'are'.

And to hell with people who use carriers for killing NPCs. I have a little sympathy for anyone using drone boats, but even they should use something else for better isk per hour.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Irya Boone
The Scope
#4 - 2012-12-09 17:04:27 UTC
ccp want us all to use missiles and caldari ships deal with it

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-12-09 17:09:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiteo Hatto
There is actually a video on youtube with a t2 fitted tengu(on a test server) doing a LVL5 vs Gallente, so yeah....get one.
Here you go.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#6 - 2012-12-09 17:18:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Bane Necran
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
There is actually a video on youtube with a t2 fitted tengu(on a test server) doing a LVL5 vs Gallente, so yeah....get one.
Here you go.


It apparently can also be done solo in a Maelstrom.

In other words, The Big Sting is probably the easiest level 5 there is.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-12-09 17:49:02 UTC
afk misions running for the win... O wait the nerf that time to QQ
Silath Slyver Silverpine
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-12-09 18:02:55 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
I think you accidentally hit = instead of typing 'are'.

And to hell with people who use carriers for killing NPCs. I have a little sympathy for anyone using drone boats, but even they should use something else for better isk per hour.


Yeah. Screw anyone who enjoys using different weapon systems and gameplay mechanics than you! Way to stick it to the man, my brother.

Obviously missiles should only be allowed for use against NPC's, and projectile turrets only allowed for use against other players. Drones, lasers, and hybrid turrets should be removed entirely.
Rayo Atra
Guardians of the Volatile Wine
#9 - 2012-12-09 18:07:47 UTC
I am so tired of this nonsense, My passive Ishtar does fine...still. You just cant be lazy.... i never lose drones to the new AI, I never lose drones to sleepers. Simply use ogre II's in blaster range. Anything AFK in this game should go. I get 1086 DPS out of the damn thing, and i haven't even finished HAC V yet.

Tell you what I do like though: A killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough.

-Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#10 - 2012-12-09 18:13:32 UTC
Cart before the Horse. I think I used that one already.
Baby with the bath water? Anyone else have any more.

Just to be clear, I know what you were trying to do CCP. This was in fact a null bear nerf. That was the intention anyway. I could have a carrier at a POS, assign fighters to people and they could use them to run anoms in ships that wouldn't otherwise have the dps to break tanks. Losing fighters is too costly to do that now. Of course, I'm sure those people are still farming the null sec content and some shmuck in a Domi is now training rails. Good try, I guess.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-12-09 18:13:49 UTC
Rayo Atra wrote:
I am so tired of this nonsense, My passive Ishtar does fine...still. You just cant be lazy.... i never lose drones to the new AI, I never lose drones to sleepers. Simply use ogre II's in blaster range. Anything AFK in this game should go. I get 1086 DPS out of the damn thing, and i haven't even finished HAC V yet.

Check this dude out, paying attention to the game he's playing. The rest of you whiners should follow his example and figure out how to play again. Then maybe you can give back to the community and help update EVE Survival for your other whiner buddies instead of creating these **** threads.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Silath Slyver Silverpine
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-12-09 18:20:57 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Rayo Atra wrote:
I am so tired of this nonsense, My passive Ishtar does fine...still. You just cant be lazy.... i never lose drones to the new AI, I never lose drones to sleepers. Simply use ogre II's in blaster range. Anything AFK in this game should go. I get 1086 DPS out of the damn thing, and i haven't even finished HAC V yet.

Check this dude out, paying attention to the game he's playing. The rest of you whiners should follow his example and figure out how to play again. Then maybe you can give back to the community and help update EVE Survival for your other whiner buddies instead of creating these **** threads.


Obviously can't speak for everyone, but when you have 10 to 20 frigates on you immediately upon warp in, any attempt to launch a drone results in all those frigates immediately targeting and locking said drone. That drone dies, even if you recall them right away, resulting in one less drone every time you attempt to launch any.
And before anyone mentions it, using EWAR against the AI doesn't help, at least not when I tried using a target painter.

I can only assume OP is experiencing a similar issue of near-instantly popping drones. Exactly what the people who aren't experiencing this issue are doing, I have no idea. I'm sure they're even telling the truth, but that doesn't mean that the issue is non-existent, just because they haven't experienced it.

"Hasn't happened to me, therefor can't be real" mentality is quite old.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-12-09 18:25:22 UTC
Silath Slyver Silverpine wrote:
"Hasn't happened to me, therefor can't be real" mentality is quite old.

Yes, well, y'all should find new methods instead of shitting up GD with pointless whines. Alternatively, whine in the correct places instead of shitting up GD. The best thing you could do, actually, is quit shitting up GD.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-12-09 18:25:33 UTC
Silath Slyver Silverpine wrote:


Obviously can't speak for everyone, but when you have 10 to 20 frigates on you immediately upon warp in, any attempt to launch a drone results in all those frigates immediately targeting and locking said drone. That drone dies, even if you recall them right away, resulting in one less drone every time you attempt to launch any.
And before anyone mentions it, using EWAR against the AI doesn't help, at least not when I tried using a target painter.

I can only assume OP is experiencing a similar issue of near-instantly popping drones. Exactly what the people who aren't experiencing this issue are doing, I have no idea. I'm sure they're even telling the truth, but that doesn't mean that the issue is non-existent, just because they haven't experienced it.

"Hasn't happened to me, therefor can't be real" mentality is quite old.

Saw someone in another thread say that CCP stated there is a bug that is causing all the ships to agro when they shouldn't.

Is this what is happening?


And how long before we can expect this thread to appear again, but replacing lvl 5 missions with lvl 2.
Complaining about drones and AI in lvl 5 missions instead of lvl 4 or 3 obviously makes this a unique thread.
baltec1
Bat Country
The Initiative.
#15 - 2012-12-09 18:27:28 UTC
Op calls people who have adapted 12year old creditcard abusers then goes on to rant about being unable to semi afk level 5 missions. Suddenly the mining community doesnt look quite as daft.
Rayo Atra
Guardians of the Volatile Wine
#16 - 2012-12-09 18:27:37 UTC
This is when i switch to void and 1 shot them...and in 180 seconds or so..its manageable, also...take aggro, then launch..they don't switch instantly..and they don't lock instantly.. Also might just be a lack of drone skills? I mean my hobs chew through frigs faster that i can target them. If they get scraped I carry a couple light armor bots to rep them up between gates. It might be irritating...but **** adapt and survive...or go shoot rocks. Take your **** off aggressive and manage it yourself.

Tell you what I do like though: A killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough.

-Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
Rayo Atra
Guardians of the Volatile Wine
#17 - 2012-12-09 18:28:23 UTC
also i should have "quoted" im a forum noob.

Tell you what I do like though: A killer. A dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold-blooded, clean, methodical and thorough.

-Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg
CCP Falcon
#18 - 2012-12-09 19:31:55 UTC
If you have specific issues with EVE Online: Retribution, feel free to post your feedback in a constructive manner in this thread.

This is nothing more than a rant, and is also worded to troll.

As such, it's locked.

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