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New dev blog: Ship-troduction: The Minmatar Tornado

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Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#301 - 2011-10-22 01:39:11 UTC
Can you say Primary target?

this is ship that should work.

Now this opens up a possible Destroyer that goes by the same theme

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#302 - 2011-10-22 01:40:56 UTC
Gevlin wrote:
Can you say Primary target?

this is ship that should work.

Now this opens up a possible Destroyer that goes by the same theme



Why not just do this to the existing destroyers and make them useful?
Gobann Muraco
Confederation Navy Research
#303 - 2011-10-22 02:42:36 UTC
One potential gankship is enough for now!
Lili Lu
#304 - 2011-10-22 03:11:31 UTC
Roll

More caek for dumbing down the game.

Seriously another BC? Why should anyone train HACs or Commands?

Tech III cruisers and now these. Are you going to buff HACs and Command ships to compensate?
Augin Soric
EVE University
Ivy League
#305 - 2011-10-22 03:29:26 UTC
I don't care if it turns out to perform like crap in a can, that design is way too cool to not want to fly.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#306 - 2011-10-22 03:31:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyberius Franklin
Lili Lu wrote:
Roll

More caek for dumbing down the game.

Seriously another BC? Why should anyone train HACs or Commands?

Tech III cruisers and now these. Are you going to buff HACs and Command ships to compensate?


If they make them as stated, agile yet poorly tanked large gun platforms, they should end up fearing HAC's. field commands may be another story, but they will still have a tracking advantage.

Infact it hardly seems like dumbing of anything. These, if done right, will need to be very target selective.
Grady Eltoren
Hogyoku
#307 - 2011-10-22 03:41:26 UTC
Hail to the king baby!

Oh and I ...

ji##ed in my pants.
Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
#308 - 2011-10-22 04:11:51 UTC
Shocked
omg, after this, who needs p*rn?

Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
#309 - 2011-10-22 04:16:29 UTC
Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:
Ingvar Angst wrote:
Does anyone else see these new BCs getting eaten up by swarms of smaller ships?

"Captain! Tornado sighted dead ahead!"

"Send in the assault frigates!"



Short answer: Yes!



as BCA's resident Frigate Goddess, i can get behind that tactic!

still... i'd *almost* hate to kill it!
that thing is sexy as hell!

Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
Alara IonStorm
#310 - 2011-10-22 04:23:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:
Alara IonStorm wrote:
I love it!!!!

Please have the Caldari one be Missiles. Please!



GOD NO!

Fast Fleets need insta damage --- buy the time anything 'missile' related is shot the target will be popped.

And I say this even with having deficient gunner skills :(

Yes because Drakes and Tengu's are not popular as Fleet Ships.

Cruise Missiles move at the exact same velocity as Heavy Missiles.

Also rails suck and if they still suck after the expansion I have a Torp/Cruise Drake to fall back on. If they don't I will put them on the Gallente Boat. One Hybrid Ship is enough.
Imawuss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#311 - 2011-10-22 04:58:27 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Mekhana wrote:
CCP please make the Gallente ship of this new BC line worth flying. We really need some love.


The Gallente ship is really freakin gorgeous. You may need a change of pants when we showcase that one Big smile


So i will be really sad when it just sits in my hangar because Hybrids are utter crap.
No tank on a blaster boat...... yah see how that works out for yah.
Railguns on anything for pvp...... Perhaps i could open up a dent repair shop and advertise to everyone that pops me.

Unless its a drone boat of sorts it will be sub-par, but the Myrmidon already has that covered. (Funny that ships works better with autocannons...)
Chevalleis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#312 - 2011-10-22 05:12:14 UTC
Off to train minnie bc, then.
RC Denton
Shazaam Industries
#313 - 2011-10-22 05:20:11 UTC
Looks Awesome! Sounds Awesome! Gonna be Awesome!

In before it gets nerfed Cool
Szilardis
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#314 - 2011-10-22 05:31:37 UTC
Chevalleis wrote:
Off to train minnie bc, then.


Confirming racial BC skills exist.
Mirta Vanderkill
Sgt. Holtman's Heroes
#315 - 2011-10-22 05:40:43 UTC
What would be really amazing is if they had a rack of 8, but could only fire in a 180 degree arc in front of the ship.

Said another way, make it so a fleet of these will have to be flying directly TOWARDS their target to hit.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#316 - 2011-10-22 06:01:59 UTC
Jarin Arenos wrote:
I know the similarity has been pointed out, but putting them side by side...

Well, let's just say that the MInmatar seem to have a new trade agreement with the Gallente.

Tornado design comparison



Nice comparison....brings to mind:

"Minmatar, flying them backwards since forever"

I'm right behind you
Venkul Mul
Vikramaditya
#317 - 2011-10-22 07:35:03 UTC
Shadowsword wrote:
Able to fit L guns but not enough pg for L repair stuff, I suppose that means a cruiser-like powergrid with a role bonus to weapon powergrid. And fast cap recharge, or the amarr one will run dry fast.

Sound very nice, BS-like dps and range without massive plating or active tanking. But I wonder if they really have a place in the present meta-gaming. Against another BC gang built around Hurricanes/Drakes, L weapon tracking might be too much of a problem to be compensated by a bit more dps. Against the current Abbadon blobs, the BS's buffer tank would give them an overwhelming advantage.

We'll need to do some math once the stats are known, I suppose. But I predict the shield-based ones (and Tornado in particualr) will be overpowered because the very low PG requirement of large sheld extenders and autocanons will still allow them to have a respectable passive buffer.



If it is cheap enough, he will be a perfect tool for suicide ganking.
A lot of DPS against largish sized targets, no need for any tank.
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc
Cat Scratch Fevers
#318 - 2011-10-22 07:37:24 UTC
So, what I'm hearing is:
BC Tank + BB Firepower = Pocket Battleship!

Gank On! (at an affordable price)

Lol

Nothing clever at this time.
Raw Matters
KRAUTZ IN SPACE
Macabric Trick
#319 - 2011-10-22 07:48:20 UTC
Now CCP just needs to get the price right on this thing, with all the T2 components being shot by Goons and others, and I am happy.

I know why I've chosen Minmatar... 'cause OVERSIZED GUNS FIT ON MY BATTLECRUISER!! *mharhar*
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#320 - 2011-10-22 09:03:37 UTC
Nick Bison wrote:
So, what I'm hearing is:
BC Tank + BB Firepower = Pocket Battleship!
I sure hope not, since that would mean that we don't get any net additions of ships to the game…