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New dev blog: Ship-troduction: The Minmatar Tornado

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Alara IonStorm
#241 - 2011-10-21 18:34:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
Ranger 1 wrote:

If these ships don't have any tank to speak of I don't think the Raven has much to worry about.

So it isn't a Drake with Large Missiles. Then the Drake has very little to worry about.

Long Live the Drake Blob and there 90k EHP.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#242 - 2011-10-21 18:41:40 UTC
Actually, I could see this be the start of a whole new generation of ship design.

High tier tech 1 ships designed to use weapon system of the next higher class ship. Powerful, but very vulnerable.

High tier tech 2 ships designed to use weapon systems of ships 2 classes higher. (LIke the stealth bomber, highly specialized but extremely vulnerable.)

It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to design high tier Tech 1 ships (or redesign existing lower tier Tech 1 ships) around weapons systems that normally fit on 1 ship class LOWER than themselves, with bonuses to make the weapons extremely effective vs. smaller targets.... but rather ineffective against their own class or higher.

With that last bit, I'm talking specialized bonus/abillities to maximize combat performance, not just slapping small guns on a cruiser or BC.

Hmmmm, this might warrant some serious thought...

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Alara IonStorm
#243 - 2011-10-21 18:44:24 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:

It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to design high tier Tech 1 ships (or redesign existing lower tier Tech 1 ships) around weapons systems that normally fit on 1 ship class LOWER than themselves, with bonuses to make the weapons extremely effective vs. smaller targets.... but rather ineffective against their own class or higher.

With that last bit, I'm talking specialized bonus/abillities to maximize combat performance, not just slapping small guns on a cruiser or BC.

Hmmmm, this might warrant some serious thought...

Actually I am hoping the bump up the Tank on Destroyers and make them just that.
Sinooko
Tharumec
Gespenster Kompanie
#244 - 2011-10-21 18:45:12 UTC
Why is it so hard to achieve symmetry!?Shocked
Nonnori Ikkala
Love for You
#245 - 2011-10-21 18:49:07 UTC
Let me be the 17,000th person to say hell yes! And, agree that the tank should be noticeably below the tier 1 and 2 BCs to balance the additional damage output.

Ha, I hope all the drake pilots add torpedo specialization to their skill plans and then the Caldari boat get bonuses to large hybrid guns instead.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#246 - 2011-10-21 18:49:19 UTC
Sinooko wrote:
Why is it so hard to achieve symmetry!?Shocked
Because it's boring.

…and EVE doesn't have any symmetrical ships anyway, so it would be all wrong. P
Tiger's Spirit
Templars of the Shadows
#247 - 2011-10-21 18:49:41 UTC
Another miss teps, tier 3 BC with BS weapons. LOL
Why not tech3 BCs when they have chances to create with winners of desing contests ?
ArmyOfMe
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#248 - 2011-10-21 18:52:25 UTC
Right, this doesnt sound overpowerd at allRoll

This actually makes the deimos even more screwdSad

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C C P
C C P Alliance
#249 - 2011-10-21 18:58:42 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Mekhana wrote:
CCP please make the Gallente ship of this new BC line worth flying. We really need some love.


The Gallente ship is really freakin gorgeous. You may need a change of pants when we showcase that one Big smile


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Largo Coronet
Perkone
Caldari State
#250 - 2011-10-21 19:04:46 UTC
Sable Moran wrote:
Oh yea, almost forgot; I welcome our new tier 3 BC overlords. What next? Battleships with oversized turrets?
Hmmm...

Give Marauders (mostly useless outside of PvE) the ability to carry capital guns. That should make enough heads explode

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PMolkenthin
EVE University
Ivy League
#251 - 2011-10-21 19:08:44 UTC
That's ******* excellent!!! Looking forward to flying all of those.
stoicfaux
#252 - 2011-10-21 19:12:03 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:

If these ships don't have any tank to speak of I don't think the Raven has much to worry about.

So it isn't a Drake with Large Missiles. Then the Drake has very little to worry about.

Long Live the Drake Blob and there 90k EHP.


Drake + shield extenders rigs/modules = just the right sig size to get smacked around by a Cruise Missile or Torpedo BC.

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Lateris
#253 - 2011-10-21 19:14:49 UTC
Lovely!!! I can't wait to fly it and take some screen shots from CQ's!

0/
Jing Xin
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#254 - 2011-10-21 19:19:01 UTC
Gimme a new railship!
Hakaru Ishiwara
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#255 - 2011-10-21 19:24:09 UTC
CCP Navigator wrote:
Mekhana wrote:
CCP please make the Gallente ship of this new BC line worth flying. We really need some love.


The Gallente ship is really freakin gorgeous. You may need a change of pants when we showcase that one Big smile
That's nice and all, but gimped stats are still gimped. Gallente ships have had enough nerfed over the years to render many of them impotent except in very specific scenarios.

Show us how the Gallente can shine with this new ship.

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Alara IonStorm
#256 - 2011-10-21 19:28:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Alara IonStorm
stoicfaux wrote:

Drake + shield extenders rigs/modules = just the right sig size to get smacked around by a Cruise Missile or Torpedo BC.

Double the DPS half the HP. Not gonna be that hot really. Unless it's got the Resist Bonus, then there is a new god.
London
Center for Advanced Studies
#257 - 2011-10-21 19:33:14 UTC
Fuckin EPIC! Big smile
TheMercenaryKing
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#258 - 2011-10-21 19:38:04 UTC
I'm curious to know if the stats have been selected and when these may hit sisi/duality. Personally I think CCP just hit my niche of having a small Ship to gun size ratio (for those who don't know math, smaller means the weapon is closer or bigger then the ship).

But like many others, I'm really interested in what the Gallente may be, either drones or hybrids. Frankly I don't know what the Hybrid changes are yet, but as this tier will be using battle class weapons I would be safe to assume it would be Hybrids as the drone are not what i would call battle class weapons with the exception of sentry's.

And I was thinking what about caldari, would that be a Hybrid (mini Rohk) or a Missile (mini raven)?



Now for something a bit off topic.

With these 3rd tier BC are there any plans for a 2nd teir destroyer that may or may not use cruiser weapons? i would like to see those, logically the bigger the guns the more susceptible to smaller enemys. After all these BCs are susceptible to cruisers the other BCs (depending on range).
Zim Katharsis
Shameless Sins
#259 - 2011-10-21 19:40:29 UTC
I guess these BCs with large guns will herald a new era of highsec-gankage. Will Freighter-Pilots now need a HG-Slave Set? ^^
Sergeant Marcus
Wildlands Tactical Response Unit
Out of the Blue.
#260 - 2011-10-21 19:41:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Sergeant Marcus