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New dev blog: Ship-troduction: The Minmatar Tornado

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Laechyd Eldgorn
Avanto
Hole Control
#121 - 2011-10-21 15:38:38 UTC
wait

TECH 1 BATTLECRUISER WITH BATTLESHIP SIZE GUNS????

SOUNDS LIKE MOST ******** IDEA EVER

so basicly unless i understood wrong you have hurricane with uber tank and tempest class dps

WTF

is this the new idea to make game interesting like lets make new ships which make old ones useless?

older characters are still missing any new ships to train for and you just decide to pop out new uber tech 1 ship out of nowhere, not lkie tech 3 wouldn't be easy enough to train already? can't we have ANYTHING for older characters anymore?
Nirnaeth Ornoediad
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#122 - 2011-10-21 15:39:29 UTC
I was just thinking the other day about how a pocket battleship would fit nicely into EVEs lineup.

Fix POSes.  Every player should want one (even if all players can't have one).
David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#123 - 2011-10-21 15:40:32 UTC
Laechyd Eldgorn wrote:
wait

TECH 1 BATTLECRUISER WITH BATTLESHIP SIZE GUNS????

SOUNDS LIKE MOST ******** IDEA EVER

so basicly unless i understood wrong you have hurricane with uber tank and tempest class dps

WTF

is this the new idea to make game interesting like lets make new ships which make old ones useless?

older characters are still missing any new ships to train for and you just decide to pop out new uber tech 1 ship out of nowhere, not lkie tech 3 wouldn't be easy enough to train already? can't we have ANYTHING for older characters anymore?




no it will be a glass cannon battlecruiser......... read the dev blog again only this time slowly

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Mioelnir
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#124 - 2011-10-21 15:40:40 UTC
Today seems to be a particularly awesome day to have BC5 with perfect projectile gunnery.

GIEF NOW.
Faith Sunstrider
#125 - 2011-10-21 15:40:41 UTC
I can't wait to see the Amarrian one. :)
Ardamalis
State War Academy
Caldari State
#126 - 2011-10-21 15:40:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Ardamalis
More ships with different class sized guns--a nice refreshing concept that shakes up combat in eve Big smile. Hopefully more will come in the far future.

Winter expansion will not dissapoint. Keep up the good work CCP.



On a side note: Down the road, it would be nice to see some frigates with medium sized guns (gunships), anti-capital subcaps, bigger ships with smaller guns designed to kill smaller ships (heavy destroyers maybe?), etc. One can only dream.
David Carel
SWAT Team Sales Consultants
#127 - 2011-10-21 15:41:10 UTC
All BC V/All Cruisers V crew checking in.
Time to train Large Energy/Hybrid turrets.
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers
#128 - 2011-10-21 15:41:38 UTC
DJ P0N-3 wrote:
Is this the real life?

Is this just fantasy?

--
David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#129 - 2011-10-21 15:42:11 UTC
lol NO miner or orca pilot will be safe now

this ship will be the ganker's choice

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Jenn Makanen
Doomheim
#130 - 2011-10-21 15:42:34 UTC
hmm, lets try my hand at prediction:

Lots of highslots.
Not enough PG to fill them all with large guns.

Faster than a battleship, with battleship class weapons, just fewer of them.
Jouron
Hadon Shipping
#131 - 2011-10-21 15:43:16 UTC
Fantastic new candy for new players.

How do you plan on fixing low sec.

Not that I think you wont, but thats a dev blog id like to see.

PS Will these things be able to pwn ships smaller then BC with BS weapons? That might be an issue.
Thelron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#132 - 2011-10-21 15:43:53 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
So we are getting a ship with the firepower of a battleship and the mobility (and probably price tag) of a battlecruiser?


Sounds like it, almost like it was supposed to be some kind of battlecruiser.

It'll be interesting to see how this shakes out. I've never liked the way the current BCs seem backwards (even if it's convenient to take them out for PvE since they're so safe), so having something come along that (hopefully) should be just a bit tougher than the big cruisers with comperable firepower to the smaller battleships is nice.

Oh the other hand, Jutland.
DanMck
Rionnag Alba
#133 - 2011-10-21 15:44:32 UTC
is it april fools day ? cause i feel like marty mcfly

these ships better have less hitpoints than a shuttle cause if not expect to see tier 3 battle crusiers in space

variety makes eve fun - people are sick of drakes so we just replace them with a new class of drakes.

you had better have another change that will balance this ? remember your nerfing super capitals because they are overpowered , don't make the same mistake


also bring back nano !
Hathrul
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#134 - 2011-10-21 15:44:46 UTC
new ships!!!:D:D
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War
#135 - 2011-10-21 15:45:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Fon Revedhort
That's a bullcrap to be honest.

To begin with, the very need in such a ship can only arise if the game is OVERTANKED. You were boosting HPs several times back in 2006 and later introduced current fubar rig scheme which clearly promotes tank over anything else (50 calibration per EHP rig which aren't even stacking penalized; 200 calibration per damage rig which is stacking penalized and is a lot harder to cram in due to increased PG usage - LOL?)

Quote:
The concept is; violent, fast and fun.

So now you ******* admit the game was spoilt back then. And instead of addressing the CORE ISSUE (overtank) you decide to 'mask' it with a new ship, which

Quote:
[10:32:15 AM] CCP Guard: The Tornado will nerf the drake
[10:32:16 AM] CCP Guard: In the face


most likely will become a new FOTY and overpowered to the brim?

Instead of rebalancing existing stuff (like tier2 BCs; tech3; CS) you decide to widen the gap in popularity between proper ships and dirt-cheap OP crap even further? How cute.

"Being supporters of free speech and free and open [CSM] elections... we removed Fon Revedhort from eligibility". CCP, April 2013.
Raid'En
#136 - 2011-10-21 15:46:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Raid'En
David Grogan wrote:
Tippia wrote:
So, in other words, they will be actual battlecruisers, unlike the old ones. Nice!

…on the other hand, this means I now have to train BS-sized weapons even though I'm a sub-BS pilot. Damn you! Twisted
Alara IonStorm wrote:
CCP Masterplan wrote:
Something vertical
It's new nickname is the Verticane.

Make it happen.
Nah. It's still a minmatardon. Or myrmatar.


you could fit a 100nm ab II and just use 1 less large gun for an insanely fast bc?.... a tengu on steroids

remember how sleath bombers bonus works ? they got bonus to fit ONLY the good missile launcher type.

so tornado and his pairs will have bonus ONLY to fit large guns, not big powergrid.
Vic Tenrach
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#137 - 2011-10-21 15:47:30 UTC
PLEASE EXCUSE ME WHILE I GO CHANGE MY SHORTS
Harotak
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#138 - 2011-10-21 15:48:42 UTC
Ydnari wrote:
DJ P0N-3 wrote:
Is this the real life?

Is this just fantasy?

Caught in a landslide.
Pattern Clarc
Citeregis
#139 - 2011-10-21 15:49:03 UTC
I approve, although I fear for every other class of ships in the game.

Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#140 - 2011-10-21 15:49:19 UTC
man good thing I just finished the t2 large arty grind on my battlecruiser V character and already have all the other large t2 guns

and this **** fits in an orca too

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.