Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Well this game is based in space, so I see no reason not to add blackholes. Now I know we can't just have random blackholes popping up in Jita and Diodixe every week (but imagine the terror ). We also can't have it in null and low since we there will probably be alliances that whine that their POS with their 12 titans got destroyed in a blackhole.

There is one place though that might possible be able to house one...wormhole space. Now hear me out, blackholes will have to be scanned down in WH space just how WH are scanned down in normal space. Blackholes will be very very very rare to find and only can be found in WH space, blackholes will be able to destroy anything and everything in its way (planets and moons not included).

The most best part about blackholes are the gas clouds left behind.Not only will these gas clouds be in abundance, but rare. Now I don't know what these gas clouds are made of, I just know they are very rare. I really don't know what to think about the idea, it just seems like it would fit in a space game lol

Yea, I guess black holes would need some form of "reality" towards it. Although I don't think most people would be too fond of their system blowing up lol. Now a there is a black hole in the center of galaxy, so if some really big systems have a black hole in the center just as a tourist attraction that'd be cool. This was just an idea off the top of my head, just to get some good ideas floating around.

There's a reason they aren't in K-Space, people don't tend to settle where there are imminent dangers are. People (NPCs) therefore did not settle in W-space due to the danger, that only a capsuleer would be brave enough or stupid enough to undertake.

Ok, you got me there but ship effects are boring. I feel like for such an awesome creation it should get much more respect and power than it does. Last time I checked, no one was destroyed by a black hole :P

Well for one, when a black hole is filled it just stops "eating" and it catches the remaining matter in its gravitational force. Said matter is then whirled around the black hole. Seeing that the enter of OUR galaxy is just a really big black hole that is dormant this seems like the most plausible idea. And that 2 hour special on the discovery channel was watched many times over by me.

You got me beat on white holes though, from what I read they are black holes but instead of "destroying" matter they send it to another place in space (kind of like worm holes)

Gravity is absolute (err, kind of), so there's no such thing as a black hole that "stops eating". Black holes live forever as long as the rate of emanated radiation is lower than the light and mass they are swallowing, which means that very small black holes live very short lives and viceversa.

The center of the Milky Way is not a dormant black hole, because such a thing is impossible in both theory and reality; it is, in fact, an ABSURDLY MASSIVE monster that is eating up stars at a rate you couldn't imagine. Did I say it is MASSIVE? Because that's a vulgar understatement.

We don't really know for sure what happens to matter when it is eaten by such phenomena (we kind of know, but there's no way to prove it yet); it could very well be transformed into energy (a couple of cities in Japan know what happens when you do this at a "pefect" ratio, they can attest to its non-prettyness), but then what happens to that energy? It's not like these objects irradiate (a lot of) stuff. These gaps in knowledge are what lead some scientists to believe it is somehow (there's math for this, but I both don't understand it fully and know people would just skip it) transported through spacetime somewhere else in our universe (or possibly other universes) and ejected from an object whose nature is opposite (not exactly, but let's assume that for the sake of simplicity) than that of black holes (hence the name).

There's another kind of black hole, but we shall leave the human anatomy conversation for later.

Supernovas on average happen once every 100 years or so per galaxy, our galexys sorta overdue for its next one,
Its an easy event to spot after the events started as the supernova will emit more light than the rest of the galaxy combined.

It is how ever a short lived event lasting typically days or a few weeks untill its done an dusted.

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2012/05/-30-supernovas-per-second-in-the-observable-universe-creators-of-life-death.html

Reminds me of something in game called the "Terminus Stream"

very few people have heard of it because their was only one and you had to find it with probes.

It was in the Vuorassi system, a cosmic signature that had a single object in it that looked like a wormhole. The description had something about it shooting matter into space, but what was cool about it was that if you got within 20km of it you took about 6k dps. Was great to ask people to help me with my mission and warp a tengu into it, and tractor the wreck out.

It has been removed since then. Used to be a memorial can for it to.

Errr, did you have any purpose for repeating what I said? By "picture" you mean "simulation", right? Because there are not many photos of black holes, and the ones we have are not particularly (visually) awesome.

http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/568000/568280.grid-6x2.jpg

Also, regarding the "dormant" black holes (not from your post), the word means they are not receiving matter not because their gravitational pull has stopped, but because there's no matter nearby.

WH space is already dangerous enough without something randomly wiping out everything in the system. Random destruction is crappy and just... sucks really.

If you really want to go in this direction then, rather than random destruction you make a new type of wormhole system (rename the existing black hole systems to something else) that has some cool looking characteristic:

A blackhole instead of a star
Instead of planets we have a cool set of giant asteroids, exo-planets and similar, which act like moons for the purpose of gameplay.
All the stellar bodies are on spiral orbits that eventually take them into the blackhole.
Every day at downtime, things move a notch further towards destruction, eventually getting eaten, and a new body spawned. Each body has say a 14 day life cycle.
You can anchor things at one of these pseudo-moons, but if they are there when the moon vanishes, they vanish with it.
The upside is that the closer the moon-thing gets to the blackhole, the less fuel it uses (because time slows down).
We introduce a new POS module (call it a Gravitic Power Converter or something) that provides a boost to the cycle times on all industrial processes that increases the closer to the event horizon it is. The first seven days, you get 50% improvement, then five days gets you 100%, then for the last two days you get 200%, or something like that.

The idea is that the system is constantly moving, and there's some cool upsides for people who put in the effort to move their towers and such frequently.