EVE General Discussion

Allow me good sir,

The new order is taking all of our isk with no risk to them

and now ccp is allowing this?

WTF? this is the game i payed for?

Bumping IS a mechanic of the game. It's what happens when 2 or more objects that have mass and velocity collide or "bump" if you will... If you are constantly abusing this mechanic to achieve a goal not intended for the original purpose of the mechanic, then it is by definition an exploit or a "hack". Sometimes though, their really isn't anything to do about the mechanic its self. To change it would throw off the immersion of the game.

It's kind of like using soda cans to pop open pad locks. (yes, it can be done and I have done it as proof of concept) Now, with this little exploit, should soda can companies completely redesign their cans to stop this exploit or should the pad lock companies redesign there locks for making such crappy locks?

CCP has already stated here several times that bumping is a mechanic. Though the bumping does border on exploitation and harassment as being used in this manner, there is really nothing CCP can ultimately do to the game its self. If you feel that CCP can do something to the players, think again. The players using this bumping mechanic have found a way to put up a fight against botting and AFK miners. They have also found a way to make money off of it by turning it into extortion which, in EVE, is not illegal. There fore it is legal and nothing in terms of law enforcement can be done against this type of gameplay.

If miners want this to stop, you are going to have to find a way to fight against this yourselves. CCP is NOT going to help you as they have pointed out several times in this thread. They even went as far as giving 2 options to fight back but you refuse to listen. CCP is tired of catering to every single whinner in the game and want the players to think for themselves and use in game mechanics and opportunities to fix their own problems.

P.S: I know this seems like a rant. Sorry, it's really not. There's just a lot of points to cover.

This is the main issue, and let me get this straight.

So the new Bumpers are only going after Bots and AFK miners you say. (I doubt that is the limit of their activities.) So, they are trying to extort from the Bots and not reporting them ? It seems to me that their stated strategy relies on this terrible principle of 'encouraging' botting behavior so they can make more ISK off them.

That is a pretty broken mechanic. I feel there should be consequences from CCP against Bumnpers who are found to have made transactions with Bots that CCP discovers (instead of being reported).

My point is that if they are making ISK off the bots, why on Earth would they ever report them ?

Starting to go off topic again guys, sort it out.

Don't question the will of the Falcon!

It's probably for the best to just accept the reality of this technique, and see what happens in the future as it develops.

Batting all these ideas around endlessly is accomplishing nothing.

Over and out.

I have already clearly defined bumping in my earlier post. You can't get much clearer than that. Now we are just meta gaming. If you want to discuss ways to fight against this then I suggest creating a thread to do so. It should not be a thread discussing bumping as that is this thread or whining to CCP or to the bumpers.

Out of curiosity why are bots bad?
Well to be more specific non ISK adding bots(not things shooting rats or missioning)

Also why does the miner bumpers never show up in lowsec?
And the miners move to solitude and placid?

So the miners move onto industry (we set the prices actually) and leave the afkish stuff for the truly af..

Did one of your cohorts just bump the station hull outside my quarters?
I swear that loud bang was from one of them.