EVE General Discussion

I wouldnt reccomend this as the first course of action for anybody. Eve is a phenominal game, but lets also remember that Hilmar has been running things for quite some time, and has actually done a decent enough job for the most part. What i would believe is, that we, as customers, do deserve answers. DO we need the HR records for CCP? No. Do we need to have every item, ship, and game mechanic that is planned for the next 2 years, given to us on a timetable? No. What we need are answers that assure us that CCP management, AS A WHOLE, have the game, and us customers, in mind in every decision they make. This is Hilmars baby as much as ours. To quote someone else, "we bring the sand, Hilmar brought the box". I would not say that i am leaving if he doesnt step down. What i would suggest is that if we havent recieved the answers that assure us the game is alive and well, and have SEEN management taking steps to deliver on their promises, a date is set where a major portion of people simply unsub.

One other big question for CCP now is how do you hold on to the brains behind a lot of the unique things aorund eve. There is a lot of good projects that require coders like those eve has such as those that come up with concepts like TD etc etc.

This is a sinking ship, all over the sides those first get the best rewards, and who can blame them..

You got your buddies to play because CCP created a great game. Hilmar and his team created that game that you thought was worthy of you and your friends to play. Your friends played it, the community evolved, the game evolved, they got better hand in hand. IMO You cannot remove one from the other.

CCP made some mistakes. They are trying to fix them with some very bitter tasting medicine. The next 6 months will tell us if the patient is responding to the medicine. This is a tough time for everyone at CCP and no one looks forward to reducing staff. It makes it harder for Hilmar to ask for funding later, it makes them look bad in the industry, they have to admit their failings, broadcast them and then ask people to show their friends the door. These are all signs that CCP is trying to improve, realign and refocus. We can second guess them all day, but we won't know whether it was right or wrong based on reading into a couple of blog posts. We won't know today or tomorrow whether it was appropriate, but we'll know in the next 6 months to 1 yr.

I've been playing Eve for a long while and I want to play it in the future.

The winter expansion cannot be awesome enough to even attempt at balancing this **** out. No more reason to save up for PLEXes I guess.

Well I have to say, I know how hard it is to get a good job as an educated talented person, and I am extremely disappointed to hear that people are being dropped.

Watch out for Hilmar's article in the next issue of the CCP's internal newsletter "How to keep your kids fed for a month on one pair of $1000 jeans."

Great example of youll never please everyone

He's actually upset theyre focussing on EVE

I honestly felt throughout that whole debacle that CCP Pann really didn't want to be the face of that thread. The entire time I read the responses, and she never once popped in. Even after being told there was a family emergency and she had left, I felt like that excuse was bull as well.

The issue here is, and has been, Hilmar. No matter what they do, when it comes right down to it Hilmar put us - and his employees - in the sorry predicament that we are all in. His clear and obvious lack of true understanding of business models makes me believe he graduated with an associate's degree from some third-rate community college in Bangladesh.

When I first saw the "apology" to us, I was like, "Well damn, maybe you can teach an old dog new tricks!" I was ecstatic. But at the same time, it seemed...random, for me. Then this happens, and it came into focus. I want people to think: how far back do you think they realized they were not going to "make quota" for the loan realignment or whatever-the-hell it is? To me, it seems like one of two things:

1.) They knew they had screwed the proverbial pooch long ago, but continued on this track because they wanted to shove WoD and DUST down our throats faster, and try to recoup losses. They were fighting against the clock. Bad business practice, as someone mentioned this game is niche, and the proceeds from a niche game do not compare to a game like World of Warcraft. They couldn't fund three projects off of just this game alone.

2.) They didn't realize it until a week or two ago, and by then it was far too late. Once again, bad business practice, because someone should have had the balls to say, "You knwo what? This isn't working!" long ago.

In all, it's bad business. Hilmar allowed his ego to inflate, and because of that 100 more people are looking for jobs in this ****** economy. Does a CCP employee want to get the **** off their "CCP IS AWESOME!!!!!" alt and actually answer, or should we expect another "emergency CSM summit" to deal with this, where we won't find out what actually happened for months, after CCP gets to redact everything and put words in their mouths?

You need to realize that as of now there are only a few moderators around.
Those who survived this round do have other functions to tend to then just monitoring, way too many forum topics.
Putting all related stuff into one thread is the logical thing to do.

Having had modern forum software all they had to do was check some checkboxes and *merge* one topic into another would had been even better. But hey, no need to talk here about how great these new forums are not.

ThAnK yOu CcP!