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i am disappointed in null sec people. (TL:DR talking about local chat.) read first post.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#1121 - 2012-11-18 03:30:14 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Why are there so many idiots who don't even bother reading any of the actual opposition and recognizing they have very good reasons for opposing this idea?

Why, even they do read the opposition, do they completely ignore or disregard our arguments?

Because this is General Trolling, a forum of Troll Online: Inferno

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Mirima Thurander
#1122 - 2012-11-18 03:37:21 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I see the establishment is still defending their free intel tool.

Sad too. Once upon a time people outside of highsec wanted features that would bring more PVP. Now they want easy mode like high sec.

Now I don't know about you, but I would've thought getting more people into nullsec would've been preferable to driving more out.

No

The only thing we lose is the null bears that will abandon null the first time they they lose a ship.

Hell Im still using my first drake(free goon supplied at that) I had for ratting in null that I got over 2 years ago and have moved between 2 alliances and 6 corps and its been in null the hole time.

So u tell me all I have done is watched local and posed up every time a none blue enters system how will I ever die out side of joining a fleet.

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#1123 - 2012-11-18 03:45:39 UTC
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I see the establishment is still defending their free intel tool.

Sad too. Once upon a time people outside of highsec wanted features that would bring more PVP. Now they want easy mode like high sec.

Now I don't know about you, but I would've thought getting more people into nullsec would've been preferable to driving more out.

No

The only thing we lose is the null bears that will abandon null the first time they they lose a ship.

No, they've already left, if they ever came out here in the first place.

Mirima Thurander wrote:
Hell Im still using my first drake(free goon supplied at that) I had for ratting in null that I got over 2 years ago and have moved between 2 alliances and 6 corps and its been in null the hole time.

So u tell me all I have done is watched local and posed up every time a none blue enters system how will I ever die out side of joining a fleet.

I find it fascinating how little this has to do with the actual topic at hand.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#1124 - 2012-11-18 03:48:37 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Hell Im still using my first drake(free goon supplied at that) I had for ratting in null that I got over 2 years ago and have moved between 2 alliances and 6 corps and its been in null the hole time.

So u tell me all I have done is watched local and posed up every time a none blue enters system how will I ever die out side of joining a fleet.

I find it fascinating how little this has to do with the actual topic at hand.

I'm sorry that you haven't, in 2 years, been able to experience the joy that is tengu ratting before heavy missiles are nerfed.

Oh well. Just get the next ratting flavor of the expansion. It isn't carriers, by the way.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1125 - 2012-11-18 04:15:22 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Mirima Thurander wrote:
Hell Im still using my first drake(free goon supplied at that) I had for ratting in null that I got over 2 years ago and have moved between 2 alliances and 6 corps and its been in null the hole time.

So u tell me all I have done is watched local and posed up every time a none blue enters system how will I ever die out side of joining a fleet.

I find it fascinating how little this has to do with the actual topic at hand.

I'm sorry that you haven't, in 2 years, been able to experience the joy that is tengu ratting before heavy missiles are nerfed.

Oh well. Just get the next ratting flavor of the expansion. It isn't carriers, by the way.

It's more Tengu ratting, just not with heavy missiles.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Soma Khan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1126 - 2012-11-18 04:25:33 UTC
oh my what a long thread and still all the same arguments and still ccp sitting on their thumbs after years of promises to make local delayed

wasn't all a waste though. if there's one thing that these threads have shown it's that pretty much everyone arguing against delayed local is a fusking botter. ain't no doubt about it
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#1127 - 2012-11-18 04:30:50 UTC
Ah, the botter fallacy, haven't seen that for a while.

It's almost as if people are actually pretending to believe that bots would be more vulnerable than humans if local were removed. But surely this is just trolling, surely people can't actually believe that fallacy.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1128 - 2012-11-18 04:36:25 UTC
Don't forget the "CCP promised this" fallacy.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1129 - 2012-11-18 04:45:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Shepard Wong Ogeko
Mirima Thurander wrote:


So u tell me all I have done is watched local and posed up every time a none blue enters system how will I ever die out side of joining a fleet.



If you are so keen on fighting people, you could just not safe up. Why are you acting like something you hate? Why don't you just move into a wormhole and live the dream?



This little tid bit also demonstrates just how much you don't get it. You were out ratting in a drake, bringing in isk. Neut shows up and you run, and stop making isk.

The hostile already did half his job just by showing up. He choked off your income. He could cloak up or bounce celestials all day, and you would sit in the pos shield and make no isk with your isk making ship. He wins, and he wins because you decided to run away and let him win.
Soma Khan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1130 - 2012-11-18 04:52:07 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Ah, the botter fallacy, haven't seen that for a while.

It's almost as if people are actually pretending to believe that bots would be more vulnerable than humans if local were removed. But surely this is just trolling, surely people can't actually believe that fallacy.

the difference is that a human is playing, where a botter is working. human sees better and more challenging gameplay, where a botter sees lost income and more work. no surprise you are so concerned
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#1131 - 2012-11-18 04:54:06 UTC
Soma Khan wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Ah, the botter fallacy, haven't seen that for a while.

It's almost as if people are actually pretending to believe that bots would be more vulnerable than humans if local were removed. But surely this is just trolling, surely people can't actually believe that fallacy.

the difference is that a human is playing, where a botter is working. human sees better and more challenging gameplay, where a botter sees lost income and more work. no surprise you are so concerned

If you actually think I'm a botter, then by all means report me as one. I'm sure CCP would find that very amusing.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Soma Khan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1132 - 2012-11-18 05:00:03 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Don't forget the "CCP promised this" fallacy.


hows about back in 2008 ccp zulu talking about doing everything he can to have this on sisi in 2009

rest of your posts are of similar quality as this one. garbage
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1133 - 2012-11-18 05:01:14 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Ah, the botter fallacy, haven't seen that for a while.

It's almost as if people are actually pretending to believe that bots would be more vulnerable than humans if local were removed. But surely this is just trolling, surely people can't actually believe that fallacy.


it's come up dozens of times in this thread alone because, you know, only bots use local

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1134 - 2012-11-18 05:02:49 UTC
Soma Khan wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Don't forget the "CCP promised this" fallacy.


hows about back in 2008 ccp zulu talking about doing everything he can to have this on sisi in 2009

rest of your posts are of similar quality as this one. garbage


so, where's CCP Zulu now?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Shepard Wong Ogeko
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1135 - 2012-11-18 05:05:05 UTC
Soma Khan wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Ah, the botter fallacy, haven't seen that for a while.

It's almost as if people are actually pretending to believe that bots would be more vulnerable than humans if local were removed. But surely this is just trolling, surely people can't actually believe that fallacy.

the difference is that a human is playing, where a botter is working. human sees better and more challenging gameplay, where a botter sees lost income and more work. no surprise you are so concerned



You are getting desperate now tearbear. Oh yah, no one should care about making money or the bottom line in a game renowned for its elaborate markets and deep player driven economy.

Do you even play Eve?
Soma Khan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1136 - 2012-11-18 05:06:44 UTC
Andski wrote:
Soma Khan wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Don't forget the "CCP promised this" fallacy.


hows about back in 2008 ccp zulu talking about doing everything he can to have this on sisi in 2009

rest of your posts are of similar quality as this one. garbage


so, where's CCP Zulu now?

incarna hell?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#1137 - 2012-11-18 05:10:24 UTC
He promised to put local into delayed mode, what they've done has been to buff it instead. He also promised to kill blobs, what they've done is to make blobs more and more required.

Your point?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1138 - 2012-11-18 05:11:12 UTC
Soma Khan wrote:
rest of your posts are of similar quality as this one. garbage

Uh huh. Nothing at all like yours, eh? ;)

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1139 - 2012-11-18 05:13:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Soma Khan wrote:
the difference is that a human is playing, where a botter is working. human sees better and more challenging gameplay, where a botter sees lost income and more work. no surprise you are so concerned


hisec is the safe botting haven, not nullsec; a hisec bot can safely operate in a personal 0% tax corp without the risk of being awoxed and AFK cloakers don't matter there.

so please go ahead and tell me more about how nobody bots in hisec even though CCP Sreegs' fanfest presentation showed that the overwhelming majority of bots were found in hisec

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Soma Khan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1140 - 2012-11-18 05:17:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Soma Khan
Lord Zim wrote:
He promised to put local into delayed mode, what they've done has been to buff it instead. He also promised to kill blobs, what they've done is to make blobs more and more required.

Your point?

you're saying ccp don't make mistakes?

Andski wrote:


hisec is the safe botting haven, not nullsec;
lol