Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I wonder how those ol' ECM ships will reprocess after the fallout.

Once everyone has those bonus skills to bump up their Sensor strengths and ECM is nerfed to uselessness, there will be a lot of dust gathering Griffins, Kitsunes, Blackbirds, Falcons and Rooks out there.

We will have Retributions new line of mining vessels.

Wow have I just stunned you all into silence with the ECM fix we've been waiting for?

A question for the balance team, have you considered replacing ECM with an entirely different type of Ewar(s)?

I understand such a change would require a lot of work but I feel replacing ECM with a non-random based mechanic would better suit EVE.

How about anti-Ewar and anti-Logistics modules instead of ECM? They would better suit the Caldari's description as the electronic superiority race and allow the Caldari Recons to have an impact on large engagements while retaining their ability to control small gang fights, with clever piloting.

For example you'd have the Anti-Logistics module which reduces the range and strength of the targets Shield Transporter, Remote Armour Repairer and Energy Transfer Array modules. Scriptable to favour range or strength reduction.

And the Anti-Ewar module which reduces the range and strength of the targets Remote Sensor Dampeners, Warp Disruptors and Scramblers, Energy Neutralizers and Nosferatus, Tracking Disruptors, Target Painters and Stasis Webifiers. Also scriptable to favour range or strength reduction.

Fair enough, I'm an idiot who can't read.

What do you think of the anti-Ewar/Logistics idea?

It wasn't personal, there's 15 pages of people who didn't read these lines.

About your idea, I think this kind of EWAR is too specific. I already said I think there should be an EWAR module able to *hurt* *all* ships.

I once proposed an idea for EWAR mod which multiply your target : if you target one ship and have this mod activated on you, there is then 2 targets of the same ship, but only one is the right one and will take damage when you shoot it.

Then make the real ship swap between the two targets every few seconds, and the difference in sensor strength between the two ships being a modifier for the frequency of swaps or the chance for the effect to apply, or both.

It wasn't exactly this idea, but this one is more refined in fact.

I would like to see CCP think outside the box with Caldari EWAR.

The problem with ECM is that, when it works, it prevents other players from actually playing the game. That's always a bad idea from an entertainment perspective. The ideal is for EWAR to have a significant impact on the enemy ship rather than the player. ECM does the opposite.

For example:

How about Defensive Systems Destabilizers. These targetted mods would debuff shield and armor resistance to select damage types. So, for example, a Falcon might be able to reduce the target's shield and armor thermal resistance to zero. The target player can continue doing his thing, he's not frustrated in the least, but when the missiles hit he's gonna be in trouble.

Whaddup Giribaldi. Still making threads with your alt bigging yourself up and then making a complete and total ass of yourself?

http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1495332
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1380822


Get this falcon apologist out of here

A very well written post. Congratulations, you almost sound like an adult.




Are you telling me that this statement is correct? ...Because i'm pretty sure i can still "play" the game even though someone is using ECM on me.

You want to argue semantics? Yes, you are still "playing the game" in the sense that you are currently logged on. To use a sports analogy: you are on the team, the game is going on, but your friends are on the field making plays while you are sitting on the bench. Huzzah for you.

In any case, you missed the bigger point. In an IDEAL world EWAR impacts the ship and not the player. ECM impacts the PLAYER.

Right now CCP is trying to find an imaginary perfect point at which ECM pilots feel like they are doing something meaningful, but at which no one else is actually bothered or impacted by ECM jamming. If this sounds impossible, that's because it is. None the less, that's apparently what they are going to try and do. Myself, I would rather see them abandon the quest and instead develop an entirely new form of EWAR for the Caldari. Something that CCP can comfortably allow to work as well as it should.