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Miner bumpers and suicide gankers...

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Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#41 - 2012-11-15 19:15:47 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:
Maybe.

But I'm betting there is a policy or something like that internally. All I'm saying is he shouldn't post "informal" untruths on a CCP account. It doesn't look good, it's a violation of the forum rules, and it doesn't help the players whose playstyle is being discussed here.

That's how I see it anyway.

As one of the players whose playstyle was being discussed, my reaction to the griefing comment was "lol" and my reaction to the petitioning quote was "Whoop finally an official quote".

Fair enough.

But we already had these quotes.

It still would have been more consistent for CCP to not have employees posting things which could realistically lead to starting rumors.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#42 - 2012-11-15 19:45:05 UTC
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Currently the New Order is focusing most of its attention on the Abudban


Yeah, i noticed, but you guys are really only a presence in local.

I went through every last belt looking to do some counter-bumping and only found people happily mining. Had to make do with mocking you all in local.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#43 - 2012-11-15 19:47:31 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Currently the New Order is focusing most of its attention on the Abudban


Yeah, i noticed, but you guys are really only a presence in local.

I went through every last belt looking to do some counter-bumping and only found people happily mining. Had to make do with mocking you all in local.

I hope you paid the most attention to Ice Belt I, 'cause that's where we spend our time.
Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#44 - 2012-11-15 19:47:32 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote:
Currently the New Order is focusing most of its attention on the Abudban


Yeah, i noticed, but you guys are really only a presence in local.

I went through every last belt looking to do some counter-bumping and only found people happily mining. Had to make do with mocking you all in local.

It sounds like, honestly, you had more fun than if you'd actually engaged in any attempts at counterbumping.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#45 - 2012-11-15 19:58:50 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
It sounds like, honestly, you had more fun than if you'd actually engaged in any attempts at counterbumping.


Would have stuck around longer if that was the case. Only spent 5-10 minutes there, looking for people, then logged out to play World of Tanks.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#46 - 2012-11-15 20:02:32 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:
It sounds like, honestly, you had more fun than if you'd actually engaged in any attempts at counterbumping.


Would have stuck around longer if that was the case. Only spent 5-10 minutes there, looking for people, then logged out to play World of Tanks.


Your dedication to guarding the AFK ice miners of Abudban in Ice Belt 1 is truly heartwarming.

Mining bots still don't care, though.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

Kainotomiu Ronuken
koahisquad
#47 - 2012-11-15 20:02:45 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:
It sounds like, honestly, you had more fun than if you'd actually engaged in any attempts at counterbumping.


Would have stuck around longer if that was the case. Only spent 5-10 minutes there, looking for people, then logged out to play World of Tanks.

Well, you can't expect us to cover the belt all day every day, even though we generally are at the moment. Anyway, if you want to find us, the most reliable times are: 19:00 - 23:00 EVE time, in Ice Belt I, Abudban. Sundays, Saturdays and Fridays are also most popular, although the day doesn't make an awful lot of difference.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#48 - 2012-11-15 20:44:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
Ryhss wrote:
Miner bumpers and suicide gankers are idiot players with no PVP skills. You want to prove yourself, attack an equally skilled pilot with an equally fit ship. Then, and only then, do you have PVP skills.

Every combat pilot needs a hobby.

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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#49 - 2012-11-15 20:56:54 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
Your dedication to guarding the AFK ice miners of Abudban in Ice Belt 1 is truly heartwarming.


Do whatever you want to ice miners. I got smartbombed once while ice mining, and they were right to do it.

Thought this was about ore mining. Now i care even less.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2012-11-15 21:05:28 UTC
Ryhss wrote:
Miner bumpers and suicide gankers are idiot players with no PVP skills. You want to prove yourself, attack an equally skilled pilot with an equally fit ship. Then, and only then, do you have PVP skills.

These sorts of insults and appeals to eHonour are always hilarious. It's like people expect the gankers and bumpers to suddenly go "Oh ****, I'm a coward! I should really change my ways..." Roll

CCP has no sense of humour.

Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#51 - 2012-11-15 21:24:12 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Ryhss wrote:
Miner bumpers and suicide gankers are idiot players with no PVP skills. You want to prove yourself, attack an equally skilled pilot with an equally fit ship. Then, and only then, do you have PVP skills.

These sorts of insults and appeals to eHonour are always hilarious. It's like people expect the gankers and bumpers to suddenly go "Oh ****, I'm a coward! I should really change my ways..." Roll

The insults, at least, are also blatantly against the forum rules.

Strange to find so many instances of them here.

Note that I'm talking about statistics and probability, not moderation practices. Cool

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

Aryth
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2012-11-15 23:52:58 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
What has EVE come to when we are outsourcing our griefing to other players?


We have been doing this quite some time now. So meta

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Ryhss
#53 - 2012-11-16 00:30:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryhss
Darth Gustav wrote:
Ryhss wrote:
Miner bumpers and suicide gankers are idiot players with no PVP skills. You want to prove yourself, attack an equally skilled pilot with an equally fit ship. Then, and only then, do you have PVP skills.

Miners and Mining Foremen have absolutely no PVE skills. You want to prove yourself, attack an equally skilled NPC with an equally fit ship. Then, and only then, do you have PVE skills.

The reasoning is just as sound.

I only mine when I need to. I usally solo level 4's.
Some Rando wrote:
Ryhss wrote:
Miner bumpers and suicide gankers are idiot players with no PVP skills. You want to prove yourself, attack an equally skilled pilot with an equally fit ship. Then, and only then, do you have PVP skills.

These sorts of insults and appeals to eHonour are always hilarious. It's like people expect the gankers and bumpers to suddenly go "Oh ****, I'm a coward! I should really change my ways..." Roll

Not at all. Just pointing out how dumb it is. They can continue doing what they like. It's just a game after all.

I just turned into an egg, did I level up? I spent an hour trying to salvage a wreck, when in local a guy said "Stop it, this is my Tempest, I was AFK"

Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#54 - 2012-11-16 00:36:01 UTC
Ryhss wrote:
I usally solo level 4's.


Then why would you ever need to mine?

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

Nanatoa
#55 - 2012-11-16 00:43:23 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
Fair enough.

But we already had these quotes.


Where? Show me one post where a dev or GM says unambigiously that Miner Bumping is not a petitionable action.
I'm bookmarking this quote.

"Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011

KrakizBad
Section 8.
#56 - 2012-11-16 00:44:58 UTC
CCP Eterne wrote:
It's not a petitionable action.

Right there.
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#57 - 2012-11-16 00:47:25 UTC
KrakizBad wrote:
CCP Eterne wrote:
It's not a petitionable action.

Right there.
No, Nana's asking about the part where we already had it, not the new quote from this thread.

Who put the goat in there?

Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#58 - 2012-11-16 00:50:17 UTC
Nanatoa wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:
Fair enough.

But we already had these quotes.


Where? Show me one post where a dev or GM says unambigiously that Miner Bumping is not a petitionable action.
I'm bookmarking this quote.

None of the quotes were quite as unambiguous. Sorry, I stand corrected.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom

Ryhss
#59 - 2012-11-16 02:06:33 UTC
Darth Gustav wrote:
Ryhss wrote:
I usally solo level 4's.


Then why would you ever need to mine?

I'm self sufficient. I build my own ammo and ships.

I just turned into an egg, did I level up? I spent an hour trying to salvage a wreck, when in local a guy said "Stop it, this is my Tempest, I was AFK"

Darth Gustav
Sith Interstellar Tech Harvesting
#60 - 2012-11-16 02:08:31 UTC
Ryhss wrote:
Darth Gustav wrote:
Ryhss wrote:
I usally solo level 4's.


Then why would you ever need to mine?

I'm self sufficient. I build my own ammo and ships.

What some call self sufficiency, others call a waste of time.

The point I'm trying to make is that time spent mining or producing is taking away from time you could be blowing up red plus signs of varying thickness for considerably more ISK.

He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom