Test Server Feedback

So, Building on CCP Karkur's earlier post

New brackets:
- The top 5 enemies dealing damage to you are highlighted in space. Lets you see who you need to deal with.

Targets:
- they are now circular, with the health bars wrapped around them in layers

Target Tracking Camera
- set from selected items window menu.
- camera will track your currently selected item - keeps it on screen
- can set keyboard shortcut to toggle this
- you can set where you want the target to be tracked. (move the focal point around)

Awesome!

Also, can we have fixed behind-the-ship camera? That moves with the ship?

I understand what you were trying to do with the "wrapped in layer" healthbar, but in my opinion the old version was better (understand by that : the one shown in your dev blog). Now you have these tiny lines divinding each healthbar in parts of 5%. On our own ship's healthbars, that's pretty cool, but these target's bars are clearly too tiny to support a feature like that.

In addition, the previous version was better because there were a clearer help to distinguish where were 75, 50 and 25%. Now, with these bars that are not 180° nor 360°, we have to use the tooltip to have a clear overview of our target's remaining hp. (One good point though, tooltip is displaying the 3 layer's informations at once)

Think of the "UI" created for this last Alliance Tournament. You probably had troubles the first minutes to accustom, like me, to the fact that one team's shield were on the right, and the other on the left. But after a few fights this clearly appeared to be a good choice and everything went fine.

Here is the same problem, people need to be accustomed to the new targeting UI, that's what caused the famous question "Were is the shield ?"
I understand that so much confusion have been taken very seriously, but it was just a matter of getting used to it, a matter of hours.

Edit : The new "bracket background" displaying an information about relative damages done to the client's ship : I found the idea truly brilliant. It took only seconds to me, after the beggining of the fight, to understand which target was dealing the higher damages. Instinctive and clear.

I like this, it is very useful.



I don't like that at all. The three segments in the earlier version were easy to check with just a glimpse. The layered variant has me squinting, not very easy to read at all. Also, gun icons sometimes appear above the distance readout. I'd rather have the icons on the right side of the target, tbh.

How strange how different people like one type of damage reporting and others another. Myself with my colour defective vision found the 3 segment circular display confusing and at times almost invisible against the background.

I suppose it also depends on how you have your target icons displayed I have mine stacked vertically on the right side next to my overview display window.

The new type display which is very like the HUD display, for me works pretty well, however perhaps the individual segments could be a tad wider to show up better, making the ship picture smaller would fit them in.
You might even have them colour coded, (and repeat the coding on the main HUD display). It would freshen up both of them.

Otherwise they have a big thumbs up from me.

P.S. CCP karkur thanks for the heads up on the ctrl+click thing will test that over the weekend.
I’ll keep a watch out for the lines in 2013

I do agree that the solution to avoid "confusion" for the single circle could be to reduce it to something like 320°. It would clearly help showing precisely where are the beggining and the end of healthbars. (Shield and Hull)

However, I wouldn't make it counter-clockwise, to stick to the "left to right" damage progression, displayed by the watch list where shield is at left.

i have to agree with the people who liked the circular design better than the layered one. i liked, that you gave the target layers the same structure your own shield/armor/hull bars have but on the target its just too small. maybe its ok, when you have 120% HUD scale on or something but then i get the feeling my screen is totally crowded.

some observation for the camera targeting. it's a cool feature but i noticed some odd things:

- when you initiate warp the camera always bobs to you ship for a short time and then resumes showing the gate you want to warp to. as if the camera forgetts that its supposed to track the gate.

- when you destroy your target (for example belt rats) the camera continues to track that spot in space. it would be more intuitive, if it would swoosh to the next target in your target list, exactly as the rotating arrows are doing

- when i am using ctrl+click to target a whole bunch of stuff out of my overview, the camere bobs all over the place. would it be possible to sepparate ctrl+click targetting from selecting a target for the camera to track? or am i supposed to switch camera tracking on and off everytime?

a little bug i observed with the new (and super cool!!) damage notifications: when somebody hits me, there is a space missing between the number and "from"
e.g.: 10000from CCP karkur - awesome hit, bro
1from CCP karkur - Smashes (like a baos!)

Y'know, the old bars were fine

When i read "in layers", i thought... "That sounds odd..."
But then i saw a screenshot (http://i.imgur.com/ad9r9.jpg) and thought: "Well... that's tiny."

I wonder ... how does it looks like on 2560x1440 + Screens with proper scaling...
...Time for a good magnifying glass?

will there be also a health indicator around the active target? a few builds ago we had one