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I have always liked the idea that weapons would have a slight affect on a ships agility, speed and other things. So a HAM Damnation can get on top of another fleet somewhat intact to inflict some damage before dying in a glorious fireball.

Well game was quite a bit different back then - 90% webs, no anti-MWD scrams, drone scoop shield regen, effective nos, etc. Current Astarte doesn't see alot of action right now, and stat-wise it's a fairly solid brawler. So gonna need a whole lot of improvements for the Eos to be useable. Even then, still need to address the issue of slow armored ships with short range weapons vs highly mobile mid-range AC boats.

Maybe change the spec skills so they aren't 100% per level. Making links easier to fit would be cool maybe - keep the cap usage I guess (so there is at least some way to deal with them that doesn't involve killing a damnation/vulture), but 210 PG and 55 CPU really isn't easy to come by when you aren't flying minmatar.

I still think you should do what I say and give them a range limit or an effectiveness falloff. Encourages fleet togetherness and situational awareness, forces the link ship to be in the fight (they can still just jump out whenever I guess, maybe give them aggression). Prevents 300km cloak nonsense and grid sploits. Then all you'd need to do is cut their effectiveness and they'd be more or less fixed.

If the prerequisite was Battlecruisers 5 + Caldari Cruiser 5 it will become Caldari Battlecruiser 5 + Caldari Cruiser 5.

Only the Battlecruiser [and Destroyers] skill is changing, so no you don't need to train the other cruisers to level 5 right now, but you do need to train them to at least level 3 to get the free skill points.

Later when you want to fly the other command ships, THEN you will need cruiser 5. [if it is still a prerequisite.]

There won't be any racial T2 skills according to CCP posts in this thread.

I understand the point you are trying to make, but every one of those things you listed affected both sides equally.

Yes, 90% webs would help the old Eos, but would help his opponents just as much, and probably more. The same goes for scram, nos, and even scooping your drones to regen shield (depending on the opponents).

General game mechanics that are not ship specific work for everyone... if you know how to take advantage of them.

The same thing that happens to them when POS's no longer have shields.

But in the short term, the answer is that they are aware of this concern and are working on a viable solution to the issue.

The tank on this thing of course is not going to be affected by the HML change.... question is should CCP nerf the Drakes tank or buff all the other BC tanks I perfer BUFFs over NERFS every day TBH



Honestly i dont get why they are trying to nerf any of the T1 BCs, Drakes, myrms, Harbs, hurricanes are all relatively balanced to begin with, Maybe the drake has too much shield tanking ability with it being capable to run lvl 4s missions but its DPS horribly sucks in compairison to other BC's which should make up for its buff on tank. All of the base line battlecrusers massively suck except the cyclone which suprisingly is doing alot better. If anything they should be the target of the rebalancing and targeting T3 crusers with there ability to everything better than anything. Base line battlecrusers should be tough as hell while the Tier 2 battlecrusers should be the primary grunt pvp ship while Tier 3s are the speed tanked dps boats.... this slot number change is also very disturbing, why take away fromt the slot count? that nerfs all of them riddiculously and takes away from versitility... plus anyone who thinks they should shield tank a harb for solo pvp is a moron i can see the lack of tank being kinda disturbing going in a shield fleet but its an amarr ship and thats the price you pay to go all gank. i agree with giving a buff instead of nerf, like quoted above but if anything buff the hell outta command ships while leaving the standard battlecrusers for the most part alone except minor tweaks... my opinon of course but pretty sure there is alot of people who get conforable flying a certain way then CCP comes out completely wrecks hell on it... The nerfs are getting old, instead of limiting our options why not expand them with more ships modules or maybe go into making T3 battlecrusers or more T2 battlecruser instead of messing with something that isnt broken.

I've been likeing the smaller ship changes so far but the BCs realy don't all that good since the new BCs where surposed to be high mobility, high dmg and lower sig in order to allow them to engage ships mutch larger in size more effeciently (even thoe they are pretty mutch failing this task since a support fleet too easily counters a fleet of these ships)

So... the Naga, Talos, Oracle and Tornado are gonna lose two of their main Intended bonuses? ....... derp? Well I guess it's fine since they could never do as they never where able to do as intended.....?

17 slots lock... Yeah... no wait... nice nerf. I was hopeing for more versatility in BCs not a completely fixed Tier 2 system...

Alot of BS's are good as is? well I guess that's somewhat fine seeing as you modled some of the Cruisers after them but it dossen't sound as proper balacing to ignore them becaus people use them allready... then again so far I guess that means they wont all be locked into Tier 2? well wait the Armageddon is allready good "as is" so maybe they will stay different in slots?

I have more worries than hope about the Larger size support fleet ships now after reading this Dev blog.

The Links Nerf I atleast Like.. so not evrything is makes me worry atleast!

Then go and pick that another battleships, and I want Typhoon. This is a kind of poor-man Tech3 battleship - you opponents never know what you're going to do until you do it, and then it's too late. Versatility ftw!

I might be dreaming here but unpluggable implants would be so cool. I think it really sucks when you get stuck in wrong clone. Like for example you have been fighting with capital ship last night and you are in your full slave set clone. And that point your corp decides to go on t1 frigate suicide drunken roam. Your options are either not play or then you can fly your 500k isk rifter in your billion implants with drunken fc.

There still would be use for jump clones for moving around new eden by clone jumping..

Or then get rid off 24hr jump timer.. Make it few hours or something...