Player Features and Ideas Discussion

He is pissed off because bad players with falcon kill him when 10vs2 (there's a booster).

As I said, what he want is piloting to rule everything. EWAR prevent that, so he hate EWAR. It's dumb mechanic, you don't need to be a pilot expert to use it.

Though as someone said, I more often see smaller gang using EWAR to even the odds again a larger gang than a larger gang using EWAR. In fact, when you see a large gang with EWAR, you just avoid it the same way you would avoid a too large gang. Though, EWAR can really even the odds, and for same size with both EWAR gang, it's still the best team who win.

Dearest CCP Fozzie, please make ECM drones as "useful" as Nos has been made..if you get what im saying.

I like the idea of those sensor strength boosting skills. Don't forget to consider doing something about ECM drones too, particularly the light ones, even if it's just reducing the jam duration. They totally ruin solo hunting.

lol are we playing the same game?

I'd rank soloing a falcon without the aid of recon/T3 sensor strength as being somewhere between winning the lottery and being struck by lightning

Opinions are like arse holes I guess...

All I'm saying is that there is no fit that can prepare you for every situation in eve as a solo player. And quite frankly, you are a fool if you're playing solo and expecting every encounter to be a fair one.

I think the problem with ECM is exaggerated by the falcon as I stated earlier. I can tell you one thing from experience, my ECM tengu only has around a 30% jam success rate while also having to deal with incoming fire

Most ecm ships already can fit quite considerable overtank, given how they have plenty of mids, some have tech2 resists and how OP ASB is. But since they don't want to compromise any of their precious jammers... they counter-attack and call US min-maxers for not wasting our (very few) mids on ECCM and then whine should their ecm once fail.

Guess what? The same applies for combat ships - you either commit to being able to actually kill stuff by shooting, tanking and tackling it OR you try protecting yourself from all the e-war, which aside from ecm also inevitably includes RSDs and TDs and hence results in a failfit. I just hope you aren't among those saying that only combat ships are to make trade-offs.

ECM boat's CANT effectively trade though, that was my point. They HAVE to go balls out into ECM otherwise they may as well not bother undocking.

If ECM was partially effective with a few mods then you'd probably see more boats with tanks/less ECM mods.

Consider the effect difference between a single jammer or a single TD - the TD is FAR more powerful and reliable and doesnt need subsidiary mods/rigs to actually get a semi decent sucess rate out of. Hell I'd expect a rook with 2 TD's and a tank to be more effective than a rook with 2 jammers and a tank - that's pretty telling.

Like I say - the problem is because ECM is really a very binary system. Fights are decided by the roll of a dice. When a jam fails the ECM boats die in a fire...again...any wonder its stacked to hell since they still cant fit a decent tank/gank so they go 100% into the only thing keeping them alive?

The problem is not the binary thing but the RANDOM thing.

Of course, the "almost completely shut down" effect is not innocent, but the random part force falcon bird to go full ECM to have their ECM as closer as possible from not random (which is permajam).

In fact, with 20 seconds cycles, you cannot afford to miss the first two cycles, or your ECM modules were wasted. To be able to rely on your ECM, you need to have more than 50-60% chances to hit, and you would be more comfortable with more than 70%.