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Duality Open Period - 26/10 to 30/10 and 05/11 - 08/11

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WO CHUBINK
Cosmo Corporation
#141 - 2012-11-08 00:00:15 UTC
I had herd of some changes coming to drone lands. is this still going to happen and if so what changes are being made?
The VC's
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#142 - 2012-11-08 01:53:01 UTC
Any chance of getting the new destroyers seeded in PVH8Big smile
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#143 - 2012-11-08 05:45:48 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Salpun wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Really no idea what this testing period is supposed to be for. Perhaps I missed it, but I don't see any updates from the devs saying they actually implemented new code. Perhaps it was just new ships, or things I've simply missed, but it would be nice to have a simple changelog from CCP telling us what changed.

Its a stable build with minor changes from the first build. Stuff like target icon changes what gets what type of icon and when and some ship balancing tweaks.
Getting CCP to produce a change log wont happen. Asking devs on duality what changed some times gets a response. Next build should have the next batch of big changes.

Yes, I realize they won't do it, as Goliath has said it's a waste of his time to inform the testing public what it is they are supposed to test. I've tested on many games, as I'm sure others have, and never had so many obstacles to testing placed in the way. Other games seem to go out of their way to make testing almost enjoyable, but the harsh cold EVE has to make even testing a grief filled environment.



I have had a revelation regarding CCP, their dev's, and the quality of their work.
Granted, many others have already recognized the truth of the matter, and I am obviously more than a little slow grasping the concept.

Iceland is an extremely small country, with a population that rivals only that of many medium size cities in Asia, Africa, Europe, South and North America. A few years ago that "powers that be" in Iceland decided to gamble heavily on international banking as major industry in Iceland. As Douglas Adams wrote in one of his books, this would be considered a "bad move". When the U.S. banks failed, given the size of the Icelandic economy, this lead to a domino effect that did hugely disproportionate damage to Icelandic economy. The results were catastrophic to Iceland. To this day, the Krona is a badly devalued currency.

One of the sad results of that devalued currency is that companies will have a hard time recruiting international talent, whatever the industry, to emigrate to Iceland to work if they get paid in Krona. Given the small size of Iceland, CCP is very hard-pressed to fill their employment needs with strictly Icelandic talent.

So given the low rate of pay that CCP can provide on an international scale when you compare the Krona to other currencies you are left with the axiom of "you get what you pay for".
Sometimes, great drinking parties on the days you release a Duality build is not just good enough of attraction for good software development talent.

But of course, I could be all wrong, and superb salmon fishing within the city limits of Reykjavík and beautiful blondes are all you need to attract excellent software developers and management.
CCP Paradox
#144 - 2012-11-08 09:49:31 UTC
Interesting discussion. I get the impression that without some direction you are feeling undervalued as testers on the server. (This is far from correct)
We could over a drink at Fanfest perhaps, or maybe Goliath or myself should write a dev blog. Food for thought.

Anyway, the fact is that Duality has been getting builds of our code much earlier than we previously have done. So you guys have had much more volatile changes at your hands.
The Test Servers will be changing shortly, as we are now Staging our build into what we call HELENE. This is the targeted build for the EVE Expansion Retribution. Once we have the HELENE build onto a test server, we will then be exploring much further into the mass tests, and the more familiar testing you might be used to.

Additionally, Salpun. Teams are responsible for giving CCP Goliath changes to work with when the server gets updated. If you saw my post for my team, https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=166409 you will know that we delivered a good amount of details to you guys to test.

CCP Paradox | EVE QA | Team Phenomenon

Space Magician
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#145 - 2012-11-08 13:39:03 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
Interesting discussion. I get the impression that without some direction you are feeling undervalued as testers on the server. (This is far from correct)
We could over a drink at Fanfest perhaps, or maybe Goliath or myself should write a dev blog. Food for thought.

Anyway, the fact is that Duality has been getting builds of our code much earlier than we previously have done. So you guys have had much more volatile changes at your hands.
The Test Servers will be changing shortly, as we are now Staging our build into what we call HELENE. This is the targeted build for the EVE Expansion Retribution. Once we have the HELENE build onto a test server, we will then be exploring much further into the mass tests, and the more familiar testing you might be used to.

Additionally, Salpun. Teams are responsible for giving CCP Goliath changes to work with when the server gets updated. If you saw my post for my team, https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=166409 you will know that we delivered a good amount of details to you guys to test.

Thanks for the update.

I was responding to his build to build question. Bug fixes and stuff. The only team that has posted any major changes from the first Duality testing period build was the fleet hanger team and those changes did not get implemented in this build and where not linked in the OPWhat?

Another round of this is the state of our projects would be appreciated from the teams when you deploy the first Helene build.

The fact we went thru some builds that would not work only clouded the issue for those wanting to test.

Thanks for the hard work.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Mund Richard
#146 - 2012-11-08 14:11:28 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
Interesting discussion. I get the impression that without some direction you are feeling undervalued as testers on the server.

No, really? Roll


Anyways, thanks for dropping by and for the rest of the post, had interesting stuff in it.

"We want PvE activities to require active participation and mirror PvP more closely." Stacking penalty for NPC EWAR then? Lock range under 9km from over 100 in a BS is not fun. Nor is two NPC web drones making me crawl 10m/s. PvP SW-900 x5: 75m/s.
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#147 - 2012-11-08 14:16:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Salpun
New build to test is live on Buckingham. with a new feed back thread.
Duality will probably go down at down time and not be open again until it is need again.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
CCP Habakuk
C C P
C C P Alliance
#148 - 2012-11-08 14:29:58 UTC
Salpun wrote:
New build to test is live on Buckingham. with a new feed back thread.
Duality will probably go down at down time and not be open again until it is need again.


What Salpun wrote Cool

New feedback thread!

CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five 0 | (Team Gridlock)

Bug reporting | Mass Testing
Kenshi Hanshin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#149 - 2012-11-12 02:48:03 UTC
CCP Habakuk wrote:
Salpun wrote:
New build to test is live on Buckingham. with a new feed back thread.
Duality will probably go down at down time and not be open again until it is need again.


What Salpun wrote Cool

New feedback thread!

I am having trouble connecting to the Buckingham server. Is the information on the Evelopedia page correct? Or does it need to be updated? Thanks!