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In which case you should look at history a bit more.

What do Generals do these days? They are politicians and strategists, they have very little to do with co-ordinating military manoeuvres.

So who really leads from the field? Well most armies have regiments lead by a Colonel level equivalent, with the ranks of Lt. Colonel and Major carrying out more managerial sides of running a regiment and Captains being the highest rank that frequently sees combat. Then you need to think about perspective. These high ranking officials ARE on the front line. They don't run in front of everyone with their sabres anymore, but they most certainly are in a place where an attack on their life is possible.

Even then though the scale of men you are talking about here is extreme. Assuming the British army uses Platoons of roughly 50 men, and 5 platoons reporting to a captain you're talking 250 men, the same amount of people in a EVE fleet. So actually if you look at say Goonswarm or Test, The Mittani/Montolio are like the Prime Minister/President making final decisions in terms of strategy, their senior FCs/Sky Team/Whatever being the generals (who generally don;t FC a massive amount) and then people like DBRB and Dingo GS being Senior Field Officers (i.e. Captain, Major, Lt Colonel) who do FC a lot.

Of course this only matters if you look at recent history. A general that didn't lead from the front was traditionally labelled a coward. There are plenty of stories of kings and generals leading horseback charges. Even in WWI there were plenty of stories of platoon commanders leading their men over the trenches, leading, into machine gun fire.

Then of course there's the fact that you're comparing the wrong rank. What you SHOULD be comparing to is the Navy as we are flying ships not walking on the ground. In which case proper Admirals (i.e. the ones on boats) actually DO sail with the rest of the fleet in a position where they can be attacked. We fly capital ships in EVE, you know where the phrase comes from? Big massive naval vessels, such as aircraft carriers and battleships which are usually where the admiral is. Traditionally the Admiral was in the biggest ship, with the most guns (e.g. the HMS Victory) however these days the Admirals generally pick slightly smaller and faster ships then the rest of the fleet to ensure they don't put themselves in a position they can't be protected by the rest of the fleet (they are still with them you'll note).

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Your argument is stupid, the comparison is stupid and off grid boosting is stupid.

Typhoon -

The thing is designed to be versatile. It is one of the fastest BS. Even with four 1600 plates on it - it will go 1km/s. It has a sig radius of 320 - one of the smallest BS out there. It has a 175m^3 drone bay - second only to the Domi, at least T1 wise. You can go five AC or five Torps. Hell - I still will go 4 and 4. The thing can break 1k DPS without any damage mods on. With the changes coming to skills application to Torps and the possible application of TE and TC to both the AC and the torps - the sky is the limit. The are nuet variants and hospital variants.

The only real weakness the ship has is it's fitting grid. It's anemic. It's one of the few Minmatar ships to truly have issues. I'm not even sure that's a bad thing. But if you wanted to make it more new guy friendly that is where I would start. Forcing it to go pure torp may very well relegate it to PVE for eternity.

Let's face it - BS have fallen out of favor in the past couple of years. They are slow. They lock slow. BC are more flexible tools that can get the same job done. Some BC approach BS level tanks. With all the tier 2 BC losing a slot, BS may very well make a comeback. But I think a lot of people wanted to see changes to mass, lock time, EHP, etc. The typhoon is loved by it's pilots for it's flexibility. If you haven't seen many of them out and about it's probably more due to armor tanking issues, torp issues, and BC popularity then the ship itself. Let's not turn it into a jumbo Bellicose please.

This is a horrible idea. You guys concentrate on one piece of a jigsaw puzzle but forget the big picture. Remember that capital ships are also part of the fleet booster family. Do you expect them to run after and keep up with all the members in the fleet? What about Rorquals and Orcas?
Also you would want your squads throughout the solar system to be receiving bonuses, no matter where they are, not force them to blob.

What's the big deal with off-grid boosting anyway? The only problem with off-grid boosters is that they're too hard to get to.
Either make active links shut down your engines, and/or blow up your sig radius and/or not work inside POS shields. This way any opposing fleet that brings a half decent prober will be able to find and eliminate the booster. End of problem.

I guess it is because Khanid are somewhat special, that coming retribution there is not a single Tech 1 missile platform in the Amarr lineup anymore.

Not sure about the command ship and T3 changes either but clearly lacking practical experience here.


Overall I approve of the nerf to crosstraining. Though I'm not unhappy to be done with it already on those two chars of mine, that were meant to be versatile . And you really should make sure to have some helpful infomation for newbies about this in the character creation stage.

Please change your mind about the Ferox. I have very fond memories of flying it as a blaster boat oh so long ago, when I first found EVE - the only thing I thought it really needed back then, was one more mid slot. I've never flown one on this account, so with the blaster changes I'd think it'd be even better, but one more midslot? Genuinely useful... As a sniper boat? Meh... A waste.

As for the chunky chicken-Prophecy, please no. Give it a belly-tuck, sure! but please keep the lasers.

There are some serious issues with the fleet boosting changes.

1. it's a 60% nerf to bonuses, going from 5% to 2% (since apparently T3s will be tougher with links fit and off grid boosting is going away). this is MASSIVE in terms of anything in EVE. I can't think of any other changes anywhere near this vast.

2. giving each boosting ship a bonus to 2 or 3 link types has several issues.
a. it doesnt make sense from an EVE point of view
b. it makes all caldari and gallente boost ships totally obsolete since everyone is going to pick skirmish+shield or skirmish+armour links from amarr or minmatar.
c. this is one you may not care about but specialized boosting pilots that have all cruisers 5 trained will have 2-3 racial cruisers worth of wasted SP when these changes go through.

3. it's a severe nerf to smaller fleets/gangs fighting larger forces.

i hope these changes undergo re evaluation before becoming final.

This has probably been covered but there's no way I'm slogging through 22 pages of eve-o posts so here goes

Leaving gang links as powerful as they are but making them on-grid only is a horrible solution that could potentially go more harm than good. The fundamental problem with gang links, even without the 25% bonus from T3s, is that they're a huge force multiplier even down to the solo level, and basically mandatory in everything larger. By leaving them powerful but making them on-grid only, you make this (overpowered) tool available to some fleets and not others. Blobs, by-and-large, already use on-grid command ships due to the ubiquity of probing, and station/gate camps are able to use boosting ships almost without risk, since they don't need to aggress to do their job. By contrast, a mobile, specialized roaming gang usually can't accomodate something as big and slow as a command ship. The proposed change will not affect large fleets and camps and leave small gangs unable to compete.

A much better solution is to just drastically reduce the effectiveness of links, so they're not completely when fighting other warfare-linked fleets, and instead something situational that's only useful in large fleets where a small percentage increase in tank from a vulture is more effective than, say, another logi.

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EDIT: Comment about causing physical harm to CCP staff removed. That kind of suggestion should stay in your head in future - ISD Type40.

Maybe it was better to give a bonus to armor resistance and damage for Prophecy (as new Punisher or planned Maller) because Absolution and Damnation have small drone bay and this is differs from planned new t1 version... Also Harbinger already have 50 mbps drone channel width and can serve as drone battlecruiser after few improvements..
And please reduce Sleipnir as superboosted command ship, and tier 3 BS because HAC were simply not needed

^ T1 BCs still gain bonuses from each level of BC you have. Like a drake gets 5% more shield resistance and 5% kinetic damage for each lvl. You should at least train BC to lvl 4 for those bonuses. But lvl 5 does have more benefits then just unlocking the T2 ships.

It is not. A blob of 250 man can be boosted by just one ship and the % gain they all receive is the same with the booster supporting just one ship.

That's as stupid as logistics being able to 'stretch' their reps to heal 250 ships simultaneously with the same efficiency as when healing just one.

No one sees a problem here