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The boost from a 5% bonused link maxed with a warfare link implant is 35.16%, the boost from a 3% bonused ship is 32.34%. I think you can live with 2.82% less ehp.

hint: on an abaddon that is dual plated with slaves and trimarks, it only loses 13k ehp from the original 340k with boosts. That's hardly anything.

I am disappoint. Have you guys considered the possibility of giving links an optimal range that they work inside of, rather than an on-grid/off-grid distinction.

These are ambitious but largely good ideas. A few quick concerns:

1. Amarr drone boats. The Arbitrator/Curse/Pilgrim is really the most effective Amarr drone boat hull, and it's effective because the drone DPS is largely incidental to the overpowering ewar and cap warfare. Making the prophecy into a drone boat that is distinct from the myrm but still worth using will basically require making it an ewar/capwar BC, which is awesome, but ultimately you can't make it more effective at ewar/capwar ship than the recon ships without making them obsolete, so in the end you still end up with something that nobody uses. I think you might be backing yourself into a corner there, so I encourage you to consider alternatives. As a side note, the size of drone bay/power of drones trade-off is not really an even trade under current mechanics.

2. The Ferox. Ah, caldari rail boats. Mid-size long-range guns are really not that useable right now, and that might be something that requires a broader fix. They will always be out-ranged and out-alpha'd by big ships and more recently by tier 3 BCs that can fit large guns. Sure, they can hit smaller stuff more easily, but against ships the same size that they are, large guns are always going to do far better. If you have some stat wizard still around, run the numbers on how many people use rail Ferox fits versus blaster Ferox fits now and I'm reasonably sure you'll see a pretty hefty blaster preference. I would much prefer to see the Ferox become a shield version of the current Brutix, in-your-face and heavily tanked.

3. Fix active armor tanking, then rebalance ships with active armor tanking bonuses. You'll save yourselves a lot of trouble.

4. Command ships and bonuses and tech 3s oh my. Multi-bonuses: Awesome. Reducing bonus strength: Yeah, ok, tech 2 links + mindlink + current bonuses can be a little over-the top. Problem: The general philosophy you've mentioned is "make the tech 2s more specialized and the tech 3s more versatile". I think you're going the wrong way with the command example. Making the tech 3s the ship that are able to support more links makes them more role-specialized, while the tech 2 ships now all become ships that are designed to fight AND boost. I think a better approach might be to keep the current command ship model, but leaving the extra link type bonus on the tech 3 and give them a hard cap of one active link (honestly, you could just axe command processors). That way they have versatility in which link they run and more versatility in their battlefield role. The main problem with the current command tech 3s is offgrid boosting combined with their stupidly high bonuses. A tech 3 running 3 links is incredibly fragile and never on the field, making it so they can only EVER one run link will put them back on the field of battle where their versatility can come into play.

As a w-space denizen, I think there's a lot that needs to be discussed with rebalancing tech 3s. The current ideas are...well, worrisome. I like the idea of making them more versatile and less specialized, and to me that means they can do things no other ship type can. Right now I think the best example of that is the cloaky-scanny combat tech 3: It fulfills a totally different role from any other ship, since all the cloaky-scanny ships are either fragile or ewar-based, and none of the combat ships can cloak or scan. That's a much bigger discussion for another thread.

Ship re-balancing is ok, but more resources should be invested into making new content.

"Walking in stations" should have been adjusted to "walking through deserted space stations looking for loot".

Just re-balancing will get boring.

looking forward to on-grid boosters

Please fix information warfare links, or change them to something more useful. They are currently amongst the weakest type of warfare links primarily because the racial flavor covers ECM, which Gallente generally don't use (because sensor damps suck)

I'm not sure the Mega can stand to lose much EHP, but if it can be made more viable for getting in close, it may work.

The Hyperion/Myrm/Brutix are all victims of the active armor tanking/cap/MWD issue. They'll stay broken until active armor tanking becomes effective or is dropped entirely.

The Myrm/Dominix are victims of the terrible drone AI and the fact that EVE is far more hostile to drones in general than it used to be.

I'm looking forward to how these changes pan out - I hope its enough to me to warrant re-subbing my other accounts!

You once said the Bantam would take over the Rail Based ship for Frigates before Support Frigates.

With the Merlin and Moa now brawlers the last T1 Medium Rail Boat that could be fixed is the Ferox and you are wondering if you can even make that work with 2 dedicated bonuses. If you give up and make this one a Blaster Brawler that will be it. You are saying you could not pull one solid range based Platform out of Medium Rails with 2 bonuses.

I like to think it is possible to make a Good Mid Range Rail Boat for Caldari skirmish fleets, just sad it wasn't a Cruiser.

So I want to make clear that we don't have a timeline for when pushing links ongrid will be possible. It won't be happening at the same time as these other listed changes.




However, let's throw a brainstorming concept out here just for fun: What if gang links worked a lot like warp disruption spheres?

yes gallente need more speed!!!! and info links need to be looked at and maybe made to amarr flavour.
"Big Moa" is the only way to go really sniping is specialized after-all leave it to the Tier3's as they already have this versatility to choose from and will do it much better than the ferox could ever hope to as medium rails/long range turrets are simply too weak.

as i suggested above from what i can tell your biggest pet peve is being able to boost behind a pos. so why dont you make them unable to do so. while still allowing it from safe spots