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Buying a sandwich at the store = act of war

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Spy 21
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-11-03 21:38:43 UTC
Hey everybody.

It has come to my attention that there is a dedicated group of individuals who are committed to the idea that anything and everything in Eve-Online is a form of PVP. I am not going to argue the logic of that with anyone because it is simply easier not to.

However, this creates a problem as to what to call what we used to be able to call PVP (that is, without being corrected on it and whatever point we were trying to make being completely obliterated by the subsequent discussion of semantics).

I would like a propose a few suggestions as to possible names for what the rest of us are thinking of when we use (err used to use) the term PVP. There needs to be some sort of catchy, easy name for ship to ship combat... and ship to ship combat is just too long and will never catch on.

So here is my contribution of some suggestions for a new name for this activity that we can all agree upon in an effort to foster better communication in these forums:

Again the activity I am talking about is SHIP TO SHIP COMBAT.

New names:

STSC = Ship to Ship Combat
POPV = Player on Player Violence
BAD = Being a Di*k
....

Any others?

S

Obfuscation for the WIN on page 3...
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-11-03 21:41:36 UTC
VYB

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Den Arius
Monte Inc
#3 - 2012-11-03 21:42:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Den Arius
MOMV = Miner on Miner Violence
FPOFPV = Forum poster on Forum poster Violence

Bobb
Ai Shun
#4 - 2012-11-03 21:43:48 UTC
Why do you want to separate it conceptually from the rest of the game? If somebody destroys a ship, the impact on the person losing their ship is conceptually similar to a trader gouging another player for a bit of extra ISK. Somebody is using their preferred play-style to ream somebody else. The nature of EVE :)

If you do need to distinguish, simply call it what it is and describe the situation and let any discussion rest on that, no?
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#5 - 2012-11-03 21:46:26 UTC
BoB- Blob on Blob
BoO- Blob on One
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-11-03 21:46:57 UTC
Spy 21 wrote:
It has come to my attention that there is a dedicated group of individuals who are committed to the idea that anything and everything in Eve-Online is a form of PVP. I am not going to argue the logic of that with anyone because it is simply easier not to.

Most anyone arguing that, myself included, is usually trying to point out to some carebear that EVE is player driven, PvP-centric (in the purest "player versus player" interpretation), and that blowing your **** up is just another tool in the sandbox, and preventing someone from blowing your **** up as a game mechanic is bad.

Outside of such discussions, PvP is emminently suitable as a term to describe ship-to-ship combat.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-11-03 21:50:24 UTC
PLNIEO50MI

Petty Larceny Not In Excess Of 50M ISK Big smile

"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff 

Want to see what Surf is training or how little isk Surf has?  http://eveboard.com/pilot/Surfin%27s_PlunderBunny
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#8 - 2012-11-03 21:52:44 UTC
Market PvP
Combat PvP
Forum PvP

The distinctions already exist, you just refuse to use them.

Day 0 Advice for New Players
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#9 - 2012-11-03 21:56:04 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Spy 21 wrote:
It has come to my attention that there is a dedicated group of individuals who are committed to the idea that anything and everything in Eve-Online is a form of PVP. I am not going to argue the logic of that with anyone because it is simply easier not to.

Most anyone arguing that, myself included, is usually trying to point out to some carebear that EVE is player driven, PvP-centric (in the purest "player versus player" interpretation), and that blowing your **** up is just another tool in the sandbox, and preventing someone from blowing your **** up as a game mechanic is bad.

Outside of such discussions, PvP is emminently suitable as a term to describe ship-to-ship combat.

Is AOTF (arguing on the forums) a form of PvP?

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Dave stark
#10 - 2012-11-03 21:56:56 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Some Rando wrote:
Spy 21 wrote:
It has come to my attention that there is a dedicated group of individuals who are committed to the idea that anything and everything in Eve-Online is a form of PVP. I am not going to argue the logic of that with anyone because it is simply easier not to.

Most anyone arguing that, myself included, is usually trying to point out to some carebear that EVE is player driven, PvP-centric (in the purest "player versus player" interpretation), and that blowing your **** up is just another tool in the sandbox, and preventing someone from blowing your **** up as a game mechanic is bad.

Outside of such discussions, PvP is emminently suitable as a term to describe ship-to-ship combat.

Is AOTF (arguing on the forums) a form of PvP?

that's more an event in the special olympics type of thing, than meaningful pvp.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-11-03 21:57:35 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Is AOTF (arguing on the forums) a form of PvP?

Only if you make someone cry.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#12 - 2012-11-03 21:58:51 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Is AOTF (arguing on the forums) a form of PvP?

Only if you make someone cry.

Does it count if I cry because of my lost faith in humanity?

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Dar Manic
Dirt Road Services
#13 - 2012-11-03 21:59:44 UTC
Some Rando wrote:
Spy 21 wrote:
It has come to my attention that there is a dedicated group of individuals who are committed to the idea that anything and everything in Eve-Online is a form of PVP. I am not going to argue the logic of that with anyone because it is simply easier not to.

Most anyone arguing that, myself included, is usually trying to point out to some carebear that EVE is player driven, PvP-centric (in the purest "player versus player" interpretation), and that blowing your **** up is just another tool in the sandbox, and preventing someone from blowing your **** up as a game mechanic is bad.

Outside of such discussions, PvP is emminently suitable as a term to describe ship-to-ship combat.


Wo0tage.. someone finally admitted it. Thanks.

I just don't understand null sec players.

**Please note: **Anytime I use the phrase PvP in a post, I'm talking about shooting/combat/killing things/blowing things up. Thank you.
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-11-03 22:06:00 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Some Rando wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
Is AOTF (arguing on the forums) a form of PvP?

Only if you make someone cry.

Does it count if I cry because of my lost faith in humanity?

Less sobbing, more frigate losses.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-11-03 22:18:37 UTC
idkfa

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-11-03 22:19:12 UTC
iddqd

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-11-03 22:19:30 UTC
idspispopd

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#18 - 2012-11-03 22:21:14 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
idkfa

Lord Zim wrote:
iddqd

I think you missed the console you were typing this in. Is that how come Goonswarm's been winning Eve?

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#19 - 2012-11-03 22:21:36 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
idspispopd

Shh, don't tell them how to counter James 315!

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
ctx2007
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2012-11-03 22:25:51 UTC
OFG = Oh F**k*d Ganked!!

You only realise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.
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