EVE General Discussion

Soooo yeah....I chose manufacturing as a career. Trying to figure out just how lucrative it could be, even though that's not my main reason for choosing it. I assume manufacturers have an easier time being less dependent on other players as they can build their own things, right?

Could any other Manufacturer's chime in as to how successful you have been, do you think it's good for a noob, etc.

I do not want to mine.
I do not want to mine.
I..do not...want to mine.

Also do you know of any THOROUGH manufacturing guides? I've googled,but many that I find seem like they were written for people who have a good knowledge of EvE, even terms,etc.

...as well as any good Corps that help noob manufacturers....or rather noobs that want to manufacture.

Thank you.

Production Efficiency 5
Train Nothing else until it's done

you need a bunch of skills, some of them are expensive
and a collection of blueprints, most of them are expensive

everything thats made is made from minerals (except rigs)
minerals come from ores
ores are mined

This should be in the science and industry section.

Yes you can manufacture and be profitable without ever mining. I stopped mining a while ago. Get your market skills up though, you'll need them.

I'm not an industrial mogul by any means, but I can support my self enough to buy **** on a whim and not care about it.

Be smart, buy components/materials as cheap as you can, sell end end product as high as you can, but dont get crazy silly or people will never buy. It's more complex than that, of course but its not rocket science.

All of this is assuming that you have proper Indy skills up. If you have crap skills, you wont be competitive on the market at all, unless you like selling items at a loss.

Hahaha no. Time spent mining is time wasted.

Trading beats Mining every time of the day. Trade skills do everything for the industrialist. Among other things, they enable the industrialist to profit of those silly people that chose to do menial tasks for minimum wage in a computer game: Miners and Haulers. Those guys offer a service that pays them a few millions per hour so that real industrialists can use their time to earn that tenfold.

With mining, you aren't going to permanently fuel even one of your manufacturing lines. And you are going to have 10 lines. Even an Indy player with a minimum of skills can easily breathe away what ten miners bring him. Why even start it, it's a boring job for pisspoor wage. Completely rubbish. Unless of course you are AFK, but in that case i hope you eat a Thrasher to your face.

I wish Mining and its associated skills were in their own skillgroup and not in the Industry tab, there is really no reason to throw gatherers into one pot with manufacturers. Gives the wrong impression to new guys - that mining would be something useful for industrialists.


tl;dr: No need to mine, there's plenty of minerals on the market.

Use your trade skills, set up buy orders and relieve those hard working miners of their product. Remember not to pay them a lot. They won't really notice. Mining lasers kill more brain cells than alcohol and drugs combined.

Skydell's PI suggestion is good too. Easy money for a few clicky-clicky's a day. While there are profitable products that involve a long involved production chain; there are some good, relatively cheap PI infrastructure-wise, easy to make 1 planet products that sell well and sell for a damn decent profit for your time invested.

Yeah that's what I read on a manufacturing site; he didn't recommend mining either because that time cuts into your manufacturing time.

I've noticed you around the forums posting about manufacturing. I read your posts regarding player made mods being undercut by equipment dropped by rats and whatnot. Your perspective made sense, from an economic perspective so I assume you know what you're talking about.

Do you know of any good manufacturing sites/software I could use to learn the profession?

If you even don't consider mining to get some minerals on your own, they you will pay a lot for them. Subsequently your profits will be lower, then if u did do some mining.

I need to stop relying on people reading between the lines.
OP stated no mining, I can read.

It is generally cheaper to buy unprocessed ores, than it is pre-refined minerals
refining skills are a good thing to train, in the general pursuit of reducing overheads
where to place those Ore Buy-Orders
it's also a good site for planning ME/PE research levels on your blueprints.
Lots of guides here too.


for PI in hisec, use the map and then the [statistics] tab to locate low volume traffic systems
you shouldnt need any of those skills at more than 4
http://eveplanets.com should help a little

If you are doing this in high sec and trying to sell your stuff at market hubs, you are not going to make any ISK at all. However if you rely on the laziness of players and the natural unwillingness for them to travel X jumps to a trade hub to buy stuff and put a little thought into it, you can make a tidy profit.



Time spent playing a computer game is time you are never going to get back. There's no point trying to assign a real dollar value to that time, since it's wasted if you make a zillion isk or zero isk. Because you can't (legally) turn ISK into dollars.