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Goonswarm effecting all high sec miners?

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Sniped117
Frozen Holdings
No Concern
#1 - 2011-10-18 19:40:49 UTC
anyone know the main reason of goons stopping high sec miners from mining? i know they are trying to slow down supercapital and capital fleets from moving with the oxygen isotope prices. but why gank miners who arent apart of it all?
caldari space and gallenete space is effected will the amarr space be next?
Kato Matsu
Ministry of War
#2 - 2011-10-18 19:44:43 UTC
I believe they call it "The lulz". More paranoid minds will say they have some master plan to rule the ice product market blah blah.
I think... well I think some men just like to watch the world burn.
Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2011-10-18 19:48:09 UTC
I myself am quite surprised to learn that Goonswarm is responsible for the production of every high sec miner.
Mad Shopper
Mad Industrial Consortium
#4 - 2011-10-18 19:54:54 UTC
Or it could be to make money. If you happen to know what type of ice will be hit next (like some goons do) you could buy it up before the price spike, then sell for 2-3x as much. Lets say you started with 10b, and reinvest all you money for each ice type.

10b x 3 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 240b

Not a bad chuck of change. Wish I was on the inside.
Chichkata
Legion Enterprises Inc
#5 - 2011-10-18 20:08:56 UTC
Kato Matsu wrote:
I believe they call it "The lulz". More paranoid minds will say they have some master plan to rule the ice product market blah blah.
I think... well I think some men just like to watch the world burn.
They're just schemers.
Skorpynekomimi
#6 - 2011-10-18 20:10:20 UTC
It's to destabilise the markets so they have an easier time kicking all the smaller alliances out of the Delve region.
In nullsec.

Not that highsec miners would have any idea that nullsec EXISTS, let alone what happens out there, or that the goons aren't just random gankers and can-flippers.
I mean, they have a PLAN for it. They're not random at all!

Economic PVP
Sniped117
Frozen Holdings
No Concern
#7 - 2011-10-18 20:11:37 UTC
yea my mains corp is based out of nullsec and due to war and goons mining is limited for my manfacturing
Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
#8 - 2011-10-18 21:13:24 UTC
they suffer from blue vision syndrome. to many blues. not enough things to shoot at. go shoot miners in high sec.
Large Collidable Object
morons.
#9 - 2011-10-18 22:32:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Large Collidable Object
Whilst the ice interdiction worked for oxytopes to some extent, caldari space is largely unaffected and the whole 'widening it out to Caldari space' looks like a hoax thus far.

There was a short spike in white glace based on speculations, but looking at kills in caldari ice-mining systems in dotlan, noone gets killed and mackinaws are still mining by the thousands, just as prices are quickly dropping back to normal levels...
You know... [morons.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjOx65yD5A)
Minta Contha
Emergent Entity
#10 - 2011-10-19 14:08:02 UTC
Mad Shopper wrote:
Or it could be to make money. If you happen to know what type of ice will be hit next (like some goons do) you could buy it up before the price spike, then sell for 2-3x as much. Lets say you started with 10b, and reinvest all you money for each ice type.

10b x 3 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 240b

Not a bad chuck of change. Wish I was on the inside.



Get back at them by forming a cartel of hisec ice miners and severely undercutting the market by selling at insanely low prices. You won't make as much isk, but satisfaction is worth having. Blink

My cooking is like my lovemaking - fast, greasy, and unsatisfying.
Raeloth Draenor
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-10-19 16:36:58 UTC
The Goons are apparently doing a little house cleaning of the botting pieces of **** that seem to over populate high sec ice fields. That, and making a crap ton of ISK in the process. If you're going to mine out there then be ready and accept the chance you're going to get nailed. It should be like this anyway instead of letting botters control the market. In the end we'll thank the goons for stirring the pot. Lol
Minta Contha
Emergent Entity
#12 - 2011-10-19 18:16:11 UTC
Raeloth Draenor wrote:
The Goons are apparently doing a little house cleaning of the botting pieces of **** that seem to over populate high sec ice fields. That, and making a crap ton of ISK in the process. If you're going to mine out there then be ready and accept the chance you're going to get nailed. It should be like this anyway instead of letting botters control the market. In the end we'll thank the goons for stirring the pot. Lol


Yep, if it causes a price rise then ultimately our ice mining earns us more money. If it falls, our POS fuel is cheaper. Win-win situation!

My cooking is like my lovemaking - fast, greasy, and unsatisfying.
CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#13 - 2011-10-23 09:14:57 UTC
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L Salander
All Web Investigations
#14 - 2011-10-23 12:39:11 UTC
Sniped117 wrote:
anyone know the main reason of goons stopping high sec miners from mining? i know they are trying to slow down supercapital and capital fleets from moving with the oxygen isotope prices. but why gank miners who arent apart of it all?
caldari space and gallenete space is effected will the amarr space be next?


This is eve, there is no not being "a part of it all"
pussnheels
Viziam
#15 - 2011-10-23 13:09:41 UTC  |  Edited by: pussnheels
Large Collidable Object wrote:
Whilst the ice interdiction worked for oxytopes to some extent, caldari space is largely unaffected and the whole 'widening it out to Caldari space' looks like a hoax thus far.

There was a short spike in white glace based on speculations, but looking at kills in caldari ice-mining systems in dotlan, noone gets killed and mackinaws are still mining by the thousands, just as prices are quickly dropping back to normal levels...


this

And i believe it has more to do with market manipulation for profit then anything else

plus the fact that they killed alot of bots aswell gives it some flavour

Probably will end when they got their money and get bored with it

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2011-10-23 15:54:13 UTC
are you really asking why people shoot miners

really
Emma Royd
Maddled Gommerils
#17 - 2011-10-23 17:02:33 UTC
Killstealing wrote:
are you really asking why people shoot miners

really


I am though, why kill a miner?
Greg John
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-10-23 21:38:26 UTC
Emma Royd wrote:
Killstealing wrote:
are you really asking why people shoot miners

really


I am though, why kill a miner?


Why do people aim for the fat kid during dodgeball? Because he's slow, and easy to hit. It also makes a nice "WHAP" sound.
Lyonidis
Doomheim
#19 - 2011-10-23 23:03:42 UTC
Mad Shopper wrote:
Or it could be to make money. If you happen to know what type of ice will be hit next (like some goons do) you could buy it up before the price spike, then sell for 2-3x as much. Lets say you started with 10b, and reinvest all you money for each ice type.

10b x 3 x 2 x 2 x 2 = 240b

Not a bad chuck of change. Wish I was on the inside.



Anyone else reminded of Pelham 123?
Skunk Gracklaw
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-10-23 23:20:18 UTC
Emma Royd wrote:
Killstealing wrote:
are you really asking why people shoot miners

really


I am though, why kill a miner?

To protect the asteroids.
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