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Overall the idea is not bad, but just to clarify:

if you are funny with your corp you spam those custom offices all over because there can only be ONE per planet in total and not per corp?

This also means if someone was faster you have to grind the structure... well at least this could generate some fights but overall it will force a lot of people to use the "jet can" for the ressources and assemble on empire planets to avoid getting access removed. Than you are still independent from all those offices.

Also a lot of people still have to recalculate if its still really usefull to produce anything else than POS Fuel. It really reduces the attractivity for the rest - especially for all those producers not part of a powerful 0.0 alliance.

Awesome new change to PI - and I like how you tied it in to other game mechanics, even if it is a bit contrived. (FW LP store buff).

I especially like that it's a boost to lowsec industry / activity and becomes a player-run structure that *can* be opened to the public (unlike POS refineries).

I look forward to the struggles to control the taxes on PI exports, and the increase in POS fuel prices :)

For implementation, I'd suggest a week or two grace period where a new POCO can be errected to replace the existing NPC one, and after that period, then you can yank all the remaining ones out of the universe. Otherwise the sudden hiccup of stalled PI production and spike in materials for constructing POCOs will just disrupt markets more than necessary.

Ah thanks for answering my question.

I'm sure you see the flaw in this feature now and I hope that this will be "fixed" upon release... If a customs office owner wishes to charge negative standing players a high tax, i don't think they will be happy if this adversely affects their relationship with friendly corps.

I suppose you would like the government to let you pump oil directly from their land so that you can make cheap fuel for your car too?!

Seriously tho, i understand where you are coming from but i think it will be healthy for the eve economy. Like others have said, eve isn't about earning isk risk free, but the people willing to take a risk should be rewarded.

Ps. And if you are a i PI guy living in low sec, i think you overestimate how badly these pirates want to catch you. If they really wanted you dead, they would find your planets and wait buy the customs office when the see you log. it's that simple.

Reading the original devblog, some of the dev responses and part of the thread I've got the following notes, suggestions and comments. I do lowsec PI with blockade runners, allowing me to get materials for my POS in quiet systems.

1) Locking people out of the COPO is in my opinion a bad idea outside of sovereign 0.0 space. In your space you can make (some of) the rules but in lowsec or even NPC 0.0 the sovholder should make the 'rules' on this, IMO to favor trade (and take their cut).

If a lockout is added in sov and WH 0.0 some general changes should be made to both encourage ninja-PI and allow a sovereign COPO owner to profit from his COPO. Those changes are to allow non-sovholders to plant command centers (I'm thinking of Providence and non-sov renters here) and adding larger capacity cans launchable from the launch pad (where else?) with less cooldown. If CCP feels the need, let those larger launched cans become probeable (with difficulty) a certain time after launch.

Adding a lockout in lowsec would IMO be a particularly bad idea because what will almost certainly happen is that lowsec 'leet PVP' alliances (read: sadistic sociopaths) will plant COPOs for the express purpose of locking them and the planet to others (particularly plasmas or lavas), griefing anyone interested in lowsec PI and padding their killboard. Their reasons for this and for their shooting any other COPO will almost certainly boil down to 'NBSI', 'lulz' and 'tears'. They'll feel secure in this due to most indy players not having capital fleets on call. If the griefers want to grief PI toons let them (try to) catch the haulers.

2) It hasn't been stated yet how many runs will be on the BPCs. Personally I hope they are not one-runs due to the large number of COPOs that will be needed. This might also be a good time to make POS, sovereignty and COPO structures buildable in a POS structure. Not allowing this will severely penalize the WH crowd due to their having to haul gantries into their WH for anchoring instead of building the gantries in local stations like the low-/null-sec crowd can. Having these structures buildable at POSses will also help make deep nullsec and WH systems less dependant on stations/highsec/Jita.

3) The changes proposed to the PI infrastructure are welcome but aren't the once that are IMO really needed. The road changes, for instance, would be a lot better if they were inversed (current load at 20% grid and CPU). To IMO really improve PI and PI production capability, the following changes ought to be made. First, allow warehouse and launchpad capacity to be expanded to at least triple base capacity (preferably more). Second chop ECUs in half, for half current base cost, grid and CPU for half the number of heads. Third, allow warehouses and launchpads to distribute materials automatically on an hourly basis. Optionally reduce warehouse grid and CPU use (half them and half base capacity?) to make them popular.

4) the current hit points seem to make POCOs targets for dreads, bored gangs and supers. The rep requirements should also draw people to logistics (bring Basilisks) or triage. I assume this is part of a 'make ordinary capitals popular' campaign. Do the posted HP values include or exclude resists?

5) While I am opposed to taxes in principle, CCP needs its ISK sinks. Is setting standings-dependant taxes being considered? Is the taxing of non-sov PI taxes (call it 20%-40% of gross PI taxes) being considered? Will the base tax levels CCP is thinking of be published somewhere?

6) Will extra roles be created to anchor and administrate COPOs? Larger corps are notoriously stingy with equipment and starbase config roles. Will COPO administration otherwise be protected (passwords)?

7) A transition period ought to be considered.

I like the idea of building my own CO, seems logical in wormhole spaces mainly (there shouldn't be any), building in null sec, oook, well low sec, okay, maybe it could create some new gameplay, but WHY must be current COs decommissioned and removed? -- I will talk mainly about low sec situation -- Why you want to ruin my weeks of training and mils of ISK? In the systems, where I barely see other pilots, do you have any idea how long I will wait until someone will buy (since I definitely won't be able to buy few COs with this price) an overpriced CO base structure and build CO above all my planets? I've invested into this a lot of time, lot of money, and PI became almost my main job in EVE..

Please try to think about some continual change in CO system, like at the release time, let the old COs there and remove them automatically when some corporation will decide to start earning money from own COs there (question is if it would be same also in w-space) . And I dont know, maybe after 1/2 year, wipe the rest of the npc COs (which were not replaced by anyone) - price for the CO base structure could be in that time more affordable anyway.

ps: I'have already tried to suggest some changes when CO is selected in the selected target window, it is possible to have there a button called 'Access Custom Office' (now you have to right click and access custom office)? Is this changed with this? if not, please consider it

To bad we cant get our PI skill points back... and to bad CCP workers are getting BJS from RMT allainces and corps... because this is what this is designed for,

Step 3.) Another corp jumps in with a bait hauler.
Step 4.) Pirate corp engages
Step 5.) Second corp jumps in the rest of their fleet and beats the **** out of the pirates



Indeed.

Yes, I'm sure Omen was talking directly to you when he put air quotes around "little" guy.

You're trying way too hard to be a victim here.

If you can manage 3 accounts, I'm sure you can handle creating your own corp too, which is what he was referring to. If you're too "little" to form your own simple corporation to run the office, then his advice was use the high sec offices.

If you just want to paint a target on yourself and jump in front of the bullet, go right ahead. The world needs another misguided martyr.

Any one else think this is a push, by CCP, to induce more use of alts? Get more people sucked into the trap of security status losses?

/Cynic