Player Features and Ideas Discussion

No my problems with you using local as a Intel channel and Having nothing I can do to get around it.

Keep your facts right, local as a form of bathing in tell to see if your safe or not is absurd.
By simply watching local you can be 100% safe in null sec.

There's a reason every null sec corp in the game has the same rule,
Use the Intel channel and keep local open at all times to watch for hostiles.

You should probably ask some of the people that make living in nullsec statistically five times as dangerous as living in a wormhole how they get around it.

Afk cloaking is stupid and ONLY came about because of how effective local is as a unfailing Intel tool.

"Your idea isn't sound, here's why."
"No, my idea is sound." No explanation.

What part of "nobody is going to rat in nullsec anymore" don't you understand?

So that's your opinion, me saying local is broken is backed up by a video dev blog where the LEADING game development guy says it needs fixed.

U know you have spent 21 pages yelling how with out local your so bad at eve u will die to every pvper that comes by your system. That is truly sad.

Why don't u spend less time.shitting up my threads and more time.think.how.to.protect.your.self in a.locales null.

You would.accomplish more.

They've also said that JBs were a "major force projection tool", even though literally every campaign being fought the past 3+ years have used forward staging areas with which to project force. They've said that they wanted people to start convoying freighters to the market because it would be ~awesome~. They've said titans would be something awesome which alliances could strive towards building, and that there would never be more than a handful of them in the galaxy. And, apparently, they've also said that local must be replaced by some other tool.

Just because it's on video somewhere, by a dev, doesn't mean they're ever going to be put into production, or even go much beyond that person yapping on about some pipedream he's concocted while sucking on some particularly effective strain of pipe tobacco. In fact, what they've done since soundwave said that, has been to improve local time and time again. And there's a very good reason for that: it would depopulate null even further than it already is.


I was going to say that what was actually sad was how you seemed utterly incapable of seeing what would actually happen if local were removed, but surely you can't possibly be that dumb, surely you must just be trolling.


In which universe is "providing factual rebuttals" labelled "shitting up"?


I already have, several years ago in fact. I moved anything which wasn't even remotely related to fleet fights into hisec, because the return on effort investment, combined with the lack of losses, has meant that I spend less time playing this game to make more than I would in null. Remove local, and that'll just get worse. vOv

Haven't clicked the sig, but yes I read that suggestion somewhere and it does sound like a good compromise. Local is an integral part or k-space, but it creates problems as well.

So you agree that you lose because you can't cyno in an overwhelming blob.

Idk, stupid pissing contests aside, to us the mass limitation is an interesting component of engagements. 50 pilots is a huge blob to us, and fights between that big fleets are rare. It's just a different way to have good fights, and I don't really see why you see the main mechanism creating a small/medium size pew environment in such a negative light.

All the main wh alliances are there for pvp, and dozens of wormhole systems are razed to the ground every week, the mass limitations do not prevent pvp from happening- just invites a different appoach, different tactics.

It's almost as if I didn't just say exactly that.


Payouts in WH are higher, and there's less places which you must keep an eye out on. You also don't have the threat of someone logging in a char they moved in a day ago, tackling you and cynoing in enough other people to kill you off well before anyone has any chance of reacting.


I find both mindboggingly boring, which is why I do industrial **** in hisec instead, since it means I can easily watch a movie while hauling things or setting up manufacturing etc.


I wouldn't be so sure. Obviously I haven't tried bumping with a recon with a covops cloak, but I wouldn't think it would be that effective, and you would still decloak when you go within 2k of the ship, which should give the bot at least one tick with which to activate warp before whomever had a chance to bump him. Compare that with a human who would've had to deal with a momentary burst of adrenaline, and then navigate the warp to menu.

lawl at all these internet white knights of local. So protective of your crutch.