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forestwho
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-10-26 10:09:12 UTC
So why does smartbombs have different ranges for different damage types?
Nanatoa
#2 - 2012-10-26 10:10:30 UTC
Are you messing with my head? Surely that's not the case?!

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Colonel Xaven
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-10-26 10:11:50 UTC
forestwho wrote:
So why does smartbombs have different ranges for different damage types?


Choices provide the ability to adapt.

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Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#4 - 2012-10-26 10:11:50 UTC
because some types are smarter than the other?
(and some also require more processing power m8)

i just locked an open door.. strange, yet symbolically compelling.
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#5 - 2012-10-26 10:12:47 UTC
Because they are unlocked with a simple skill tree.

Would take a lot more training time to do away with that.

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forestwho
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-10-26 10:31:25 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD TYPE40
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4 useless froum trolls in under 30 minuts that are ether:

A] to ignorant to understand the question
B] to ******** to get the question
C] to trollish to give a proper answere
D] to bored ingame due brokeness or napped up with so many ppl that they dont have better stuff to do other than trolling or shooting red crosses
E] all of the above or some in random combination

True Shansha Large EMP Smartbomb VS Shadow Serpentis Large Thermal Smartbomb

Why the differance?

(not putting in stats as anti troll measurement, *snip* )

Ottersmacker wrote:
because some types are smarter than the other?
(and some also require more processing power m8)


Does it rly matter?, does 10 CPU makes a differance when it requirs 2000 power? Its not like you can fit a large smartbomb on somthing other than a battleship... which have enough cpu. Its ********...

Colonel Xaven wrote:
forestwho wrote:
So why does smartbombs have different ranges for different damage types?


Choices provide the ability to adapt.


Only if you are given the ability to choise between logic choises. As in range is the best quality, why choose less or why forced to choose less for other damage types.... makes no sence..


EDIT: Please refrain from making personal attacks on other forum users - ISD Type40.
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#7 - 2012-10-26 10:35:59 UTC
forestwho wrote:
Does it rly matter?, does 10 CPU makes a differance when it requirs 2000 power? Its not like you can fit a large smartbomb on somthing other than a battleship... which have enough cpu. Its ********...


Sorry, but yea. It does.

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forestwho
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-10-26 10:36:35 UTC  |  Edited by: forestwho
Arduemont wrote:
forestwho wrote:
Does it rly matter?, does 10 CPU makes a differance when it requirs 2000 power? Its not like you can fit a large smartbomb on somthing other than a battleship... which have enough cpu. Its ********...


Sorry, but yea. It does.


which part?

it matters?
Fitting on other than bs?
or its ********?
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#9 - 2012-10-26 10:36:45 UTC
Yeah sentries work the same way as those smart bombs. Different damage types with different ranges. Sentries and smartbombs are just simplified weapon systems all races can use, so they have a weird trade off with dmg type and range.

Nothing comes easy.

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forestwho
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-10-26 10:41:05 UTC  |  Edited by: forestwho
rodyas wrote:
Yeah sentries work the same way as those smart bombs. Different damage types with different ranges. Sentries and smartbombs are just simplified weapon systems all races can use, so they have a weird trade off with dmg type and range.

Nothing comes easy.


Sentries are also broken. Thats why they hardly get used also. It is weird and it doesnt make sence. It is a simplified weapon system but that have not to be the reson why its weird and unlogic. Doesnt make any sence at all..
Inquisitor Kitchner
The Executives
#11 - 2012-10-26 10:46:01 UTC
Wow OP got rude fast in this thread.

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Doddy
Excidium.
#12 - 2012-10-26 11:00:01 UTC
forestwho wrote:
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2
3
4 useless froum trolls in under 30 minuts that are ether:

A] to ignorant to understand the question
B] to ******** to get the question
C] to trollish to give a proper answere
D] to bored ingame due brokeness or napped up with so many ppl that they dont have better stuff to do other than trolling or shooting red crosses
E] all of the above or some in random combination

True Shansha Large EMP Smartbomb VS Shadow Serpentis Large Thermal Smartbomb

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Erm you do realise you didn't say anything about faction in your op right.
RingRaith
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-10-26 11:04:38 UTC
What makes things odder is the fact that (when looking at faction SB's) they all use the same grid/cpu and same cycle time yet the EMP ones have greatest range, highest damage and least cap cost, thermal has second greatest range, second highest damage and second least cap cost, explosive third in all and kinetic last in all. There are 5 faction EMP SB's to 2 of all the others (so greater choice).

BUT, the T2 ones don't have any differences. They are all the same no matter what damage type. Same range, dmg, cap, grid/cpu etc. If this weren't the case you could make up something to say that it is easier to create a pulse of electricity than a pulse of kinetic energy or something. but T2 ones being the same contradicts that.





Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#14 - 2012-10-26 11:10:59 UTC
Meta 0 smartbombs, all the same range.
Meta 1 smartbombs, all the same range.
Tech 2 smartbombs, all the same range.

Apparently damage type has nothing to do with it. It all points to the fact that some factions are just better at making smartbombs than others. Who would've thought that the factions that like lasers would have been better at making Energy Pulse Weapons than the ones that prefer autocannons and explosives?

Who put the goat in there?
Josef Djugashvilis
#15 - 2012-10-26 11:11:52 UTC
I bought the Gallente bomber because it looks pretty.

However, I have absolutely no idea how to use it.

Advice, pointers to bombers, use of, information please.

Of course, it may be that I am just too dumb to use smart bombs.

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Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-10-26 11:13:07 UTC
Ottersmacker wrote:
because some types are smarter than the other?
(and some also require more processing power m8)


That's racist

The wishlist is pretty much complete...
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#17 - 2012-10-26 11:19:09 UTC
forestwho wrote:
True Shansha Large EMP Smartbomb VS Shadow Serpentis Large Thermal Smartbomb

Why the differance?
Because Sansha is better than Serpentis.

Quote:
Does it rly matter?, does 10 CPU makes a differance when it requirs 2000 power?
Yes. CPU ≠ PG.
RingRaith
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-10-26 11:19:56 UTC
Shederov Blood wrote:
Meta 0 smartbombs, all the same range.
Meta 1 smartbombs, all the same range.
Tech 2 smartbombs, all the same range.

Apparently damage type has nothing to do with it.


apparently you are incorrect when talking about faction smartbombs as they are all meta 9 but have different ranges, damage and cap usage, all favouring EMP, then thermal, then explosive and lastly kinetic.

There is some truth in what you say however that some factions would be better at making energy weapons than others but then you would expect Caldari to be better than Minmatar when making energy weapons.
Colonel Xaven
Perkone
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-10-26 11:30:10 UTC
forestwho wrote:
Colonel Xaven wrote:
forestwho wrote:
So why does smartbombs have different ranges for different damage types?


Choices provide the ability to adapt.


Only if you are given the ability to choise between logic choises. As in range is the best quality, why choose less or why forced to choose less for other damage types.... makes no sence..


Ah now I see the reason of your ragepost. You want a general choice of "good, better, best". Well, I'm very sorry for you in this case.

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#20 - 2012-10-26 11:31:01 UTC
forestwho wrote:
rodyas wrote:
Yeah sentries work the same way as those smart bombs. Different damage types with different ranges. Sentries and smartbombs are just simplified weapon systems all races can use, so they have a weird trade off with dmg type and range.

Nothing comes easy.


Sentries are also broken. Thats why they hardly get used also. It is weird and it doesnt make sence. It is a simplified weapon system but that have not to be the reson why its weird and unlogic. Doesnt make any sence at all..


What's wrong with sentries? I use them daily and they're fantastic.

Also, Sansha faction items are often better than Serpentis. Not all factions are created equal. Welcome to Eve where it pays to read everything and pay attention to details..

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