Warfare & Tactics

If that's the case Damar, you may want to tell them why you won't accept their surrender request and let them be on their way? It's pretty clear they don't want to be locked down in an eternal war when they might instead join another alliance and be on with their lives.

I've not received a surrender request or any evemail from RR. Then again, I dont control the account of the CEO but I can pass info to the guy who does. Not sure if he has interest for it though. As Rail Gun says, age of a corp has no bearing of the fact and attempting to get some more justification with "My corp is so old and traditional" has very little value when chips are down. Just ask BoB.

I mean, if for some reason you would have gotten into similiar situation with PERVS, would you have dropped the dec? I know for certain I would not give you any luxury. Then again, you are from Ankhs corporation so I automatically label you as a stinking pile of human f.ces, so unlike some other corps/people out there, you have zero respect from me.

Price has apparently been set so perhaps there will be progress. At least that's what BM told me.

Let's not forget that OP decced Emperor Thrones Guards because of FW plex farming and lucrative isk opportunies it offered. So he should have no problems paying money for dec being dropped since by all rights he should have made hundreds of billions while at it. Hell, my friend alone made 50b isk in one week and i'm sure he was not even trying that hard.

It's called exploit

but CCP will only involve in this if a member of their friends alliances or any of their friends are petitioning this ... cause they don't give a crap about old corp or old players .... don't u see ?!

how else they continually **** and nerf everything in this game if they cared bout their players ?! how else could they nerf faction warfare without even give a 1 week notification just to **** caldari militia .... seriously this is just ****** up ... yet again i have lost my interest in eve, me also, i'm an old player, playing and paying CCP salaries since 2005 ! they still don't give a **** !

Conclusion: Disband, sell everything, Uninstall EVE Online, SUE CCP for anti Player Support / Customer Support in EVE Online Game Mechanics, they do the rules just as they woke up in the morning ... same as they respect them ....

They tell us this game is fun, yeah probably for kill2 or other DEV's that are allowed to play EVE Online, (and again why do DEV's are allowed to play !? ) but for some this is a second job ! trying to play to make isk and not having fun (which is totally crap), i love PVP, i love this game, but this continuous nerfing made me loose interest in this game and play different other games that provide a more appropriate Customer Support, and more fun than EVE.

You are intentionally ignoring the bigger issue here. EVE may not be fair, but it is a game. One people pay for. To be entertained. There is an exit in place for most situations, so that even if things don't work out, even if everything goes to hell, you can leave and do something else.

Except that, in this case, the only option is very extreme - disband your corp and re-make it, then NEVER DEC ANYONE ELSE EVER AGAIN.

In other words, even if RR disbanded, they, and anyone else, would be morons to declare war on anything because this situation could then simply be repeated. That is a broken mechanic, an unintended side-effect of a previous fix. It was never CCP's intention to kill an entire facet of their own damn game, and any claims otherwise from you is nothing but trolling.

I wonder, if your corp was in a similar situation, would you be so damn cocky about it? "I can never get out of this war and thus I can never join any alliance ever, our requests for a surrender is being ignored so, we will be forced to disband our corp. But hey, it's completely cool with us, working as intended."

Somehow I don't imagine you will. Put yourself in another's shoes sometime and try to see the issue from their POW.




As a matter of fact, if PERVS had decced GMVA and we made it mutual, and PERVS then later asked to surrender and go do something else, I'd vote that we let them surrender and go about their way. There are after all other targets out there, others we might fight, and at the end of the day, GMVA is not an alliance led by a delusional hater who likes to hold IRL grudges and hate-agendas towards 'enemies' in a computer game. GMVA is in fact run by and populated by PLAYERS, who realize we play a GAME, with OTHER PLAYERS. Ergo, any combat or war we have with our 'enemies' stop once we walk away from our computers.

Last but not least I would not write your entire opinion off as worthless simply because of what alliance or corp or militia you happen to be part of when you make your post. You on the other hand seem to have no such problem.

People pay to be entertained? So if you pay you dont have to play by the rules? You just enterntain yourself until you are in dead-end and then it's time to go in forums and demand that rules are changed?



Why shouldn't they newer deck enyone else? Maby they should only deck people they want to fight, not troll some 10 player alt corp and throw wardecks left and right?



I dont see problem here. If we imagine situation where we would fail in a current mechanics and get stuck in a pointless war, why shouldnt we disband and make same corp again? That is the way to get rid of them atm. Maby you guys shouldnt start wars if you dont agree with mechanics?

Actually I do. Perhaps I should go and do some pewpew now.

I would just ask for clarification. Are you alt of RR because if it turns out RR is nothing but alt for froggie militia, i'm sure it will make things more difficult.

I never really understood or read up on the new war declaration mechanics. Personally, I'm not interested in declaring war with anyone because I engage in combat in low and null (0.0) security space. I've been bothered many times by others in my corporation to declare war on other entities, even within my own milltia. However, there was no point based on where we operated (we can already fight them in low and null).

I personally don't war decs because it means going out of my way to setup insta locking camps, adding everyone in that entity to watch list and setting up cloakies to watch thier base 23/7. @tleast if i'm the aggressor. You know, without directly engaging the other entity. I've always felt the intention of those tactics is to destroy the entity and not necessarily to pvp. I've done that in 0.0 for sure and I was never happy doing it.

I sympathize with the romanians, but renegades don't complain = /

This does seem like a F*CKED UP mechanic. Hope things go well for you gentlemen in the future.

Clearly you know what you are talking about, have read and understood the OP, and are completely right in your assumptions.

Nah, I'll go with "obvious troll" for this one.

It's not troll.
I live in lowsec for 2 years now with constant outlaw status.
For me war begins every time i undock from station. There is no rules, no safes just Pew and fun. Those who wardec someone and then cries on forum cuz decced corp locked them in infinite war are PUSSIES and filthy carebear.
So stop careing and start playing!